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3 total messages Started by Johan Viroux Thu, 31 Mar 2005 13:10
French: poor - English: rich (21/100)
#167
Author: Johan Viroux
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 13:10
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French has a poor vocabulary (Andr� Martinet (Sorbonne University - Paris))
(it must often borrow words from Greek and Latin to make new words and the
derivation system is inefficient). In comparison, English has a much more
developed vocabulary, BESIDE the words from Latin and Greek.
Moreover, the close semantic link between the different lexemes listed here
can be directly observed by the English speaker. This is not the case for
the corresponding French words.
Let us compare:

1 T: T, t�
T-square: �querre en T, t�
2 tact : tact
tactful : plein de tact
tactfully : avec tact
tactfulness : tact
3 tail: queue
long-tailed: � la queue longue
4 tank : r�servoir
a tankful of petrol : un r�servoir (plein) d'essence
a tankful of water : une citerne (pleine) d'eau
5 tax : taxe, imp�t
tax avoidance : �vasion fiscale
tax collector : percepteur
tax payer : contribuable
6 teen : dix
teenager : adolescent
7 teeth (< tooth) : dent
to teethe : faire ses dents
teething: pouss�e des dents, dentition
8 temper: humeur
good-tempered: de bonne humeur
9 to tempt: tenter
tempter: tentateur
tempting: tentant
temptingly: d'une mani�re tentante
10 ten: dix
tenfold : d�cuple (cf sevenfold)
11 tender: tendre
tender-hearted: sensible, compatissant
tender-heartedness: compassion
12 tense: tendu
tensely: d'une voix tendue
13 to thank : remercier
thankful : reconnaissant
thankfulness: ingrat
14 thatch: chaume
thatched cottage: chaumi�re
15 thick: �pais
thick-lipped: lippu
thickly: en une couche �paisse
16 thigh: cuisse
thighbone: f�mur
17 thin: mince
thinly: en tranches minces
Re: French: poor - English: rich (21/100)
#38
Author: Jacques Latreille
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 04:05
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NE JAMAIS OUBLIER QUE L'ORIGINE DE L'ANGLAIS EST LE FRANCAIS ....
AUTREMENT DIT, SANS LE FRANCAIS , L'ANGLAIS SERAIT UNE LANGUE MORIBONDE OU 
INEXISTANTE !!!


"Johan Viroux" <ABC.Service.Langues@skynet.be> a �crit dans le message de 
news: 424bf609$0$28076$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be...
> French has a poor vocabulary (Andr� Martinet (Sorbonne University - 
> Paris))
> (it must often borrow words from Greek and Latin to make new words and the
> derivation system is inefficient). In comparison, English has a much more
> developed vocabulary, BESIDE the words from Latin and Greek.
> Moreover, the close semantic link between the different lexemes listed 
> here
> can be directly observed by the English speaker. This is not the case for
> the corresponding French words.
> Let us compare:
>
> 1 T: T, t�
> T-square: �querre en T, t�
> 2 tact : tact
> tactful : plein de tact
> tactfully : avec tact
> tactfulness : tact
> 3 tail: queue
> long-tailed: � la queue longue
> 4 tank : r�servoir
> a tankful of petrol : un r�servoir (plein) d'essence
> a tankful of water : une citerne (pleine) d'eau
> 5 tax : taxe, imp�t
> tax avoidance : �vasion fiscale
> tax collector : percepteur
> tax payer : contribuable
> 6 teen : dix
> teenager : adolescent
> 7 teeth (< tooth) : dent
> to teethe : faire ses dents
> teething: pouss�e des dents, dentition
> 8 temper: humeur
> good-tempered: de bonne humeur
> 9 to tempt: tenter
> tempter: tentateur
> tempting: tentant
> temptingly: d'une mani�re tentante
> 10 ten: dix
> tenfold : d�cuple (cf sevenfold)
> 11 tender: tendre
> tender-hearted: sensible, compatissant
> tender-heartedness: compassion
> 12 tense: tendu
> tensely: d'une voix tendue
> 13 to thank : remercier
> thankful : reconnaissant
> thankfulness: ingrat
> 14 thatch: chaume
> thatched cottage: chaumi�re
> 15 thick: �pais
> thick-lipped: lippu
> thickly: en une couche �paisse
> 16 thigh: cuisse
> thighbone: f�mur
> 17 thin: mince
> thinly: en tranches minces
>
>
> 
Re: French: poor - English: rich (21/100)
#39
Author: Kaffars
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 02:50
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First of all, the origin of the English language is not French. In 1066 
William conquered England. The French controlled England for 85 years during 
which the English language was banned in the courts etc.

During this period, the English language tripled it's vocabulary...such 
words as royal,table etc. were added (became a part of the language.)

Also, the English language was controlled by a comittee and there was a 
question of the language becoming impure due to words from other 
languages(from it's colonies).But those who fought this , claiming that 
these words from other languages enrich the English language won out. Thus, 
these words have been claimed by the English language.

It is said that(half jokingly) that English is a dialect of the French 
language.

In fact, English and French have much vocabulary in common. Pronunciation 
differs and grammar is slightly different. But the conjugation of verbs is 
very different.

French having it's roots in latin...in my opinion, has not evolved to the 
simplicity that English has.This is partly due also because of the 
industrial revolution.

I don't see why those in controll of the French language do not allow the 
language to evolve.

example...player

cassette player
record player
cd player
tape player
if a new product developes such as a txxat
then you would play it on a txxat player.


In English..following the above method, one can make up new words and every 
English speaking person would undestand.

The French language seems to be less inovative when it comes to new 
products.This was alright when we lived on farms and had a limited need of a 
few thousand words, but memorizing new words such as a balladeur etc will 
oneday overwhelm the French speaker.









"Jacques Latreille" <latj@sympatico.ca> wrote in message 
news:ww4qf.1763$1Y4.170759@news20.bellglobal.com...
| NE JAMAIS OUBLIER QUE L'ORIGINE DE L'ANGLAIS EST LE FRANCAIS ....
| AUTREMENT DIT, SANS LE FRANCAIS , L'ANGLAIS SERAIT UNE LANGUE MORIBONDE OU
| INEXISTANTE !!!
|
|
| "Johan Viroux" <ABC.Service.Langues@skynet.be> a �crit dans le message de
| news: 424bf609$0$28076$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be...
| > French has a poor vocabulary (Andr� Martinet (Sorbonne University -
| > Paris))
| > (it must often borrow words from Greek and Latin to make new words and 
the
| > derivation system is inefficient). In comparison, English has a much 
more
| > developed vocabulary, BESIDE the words from Latin and Greek.
| > Moreover, the close semantic link between the different lexemes listed
| > here
| > can be directly observed by the English speaker. This is not the case 
for
| > the corresponding French words.
| > Let us compare:
| >
| > 1 T: T, t�
| > T-square: �querre en T, t�
| > 2 tact : tact
| > tactful : plein de tact
| > tactfully : avec tact
| > tactfulness : tact
| > 3 tail: queue
| > long-tailed: � la queue longue
| > 4 tank : r�servoir
| > a tankful of petrol : un r�servoir (plein) d'essence
| > a tankful of water : une citerne (pleine) d'eau
| > 5 tax : taxe, imp�t
| > tax avoidance : �vasion fiscale
| > tax collector : percepteur
| > tax payer : contribuable
| > 6 teen : dix
| > teenager : adolescent
| > 7 teeth (< tooth) : dent
| > to teethe : faire ses dents
| > teething: pouss�e des dents, dentition
| > 8 temper: humeur
| > good-tempered: de bonne humeur
| > 9 to tempt: tenter
| > tempter: tentateur
| > tempting: tentant
| > temptingly: d'une mani�re tentante
| > 10 ten: dix
| > tenfold : d�cuple (cf sevenfold)
| > 11 tender: tendre
| > tender-hearted: sensible, compatissant
| > tender-heartedness: compassion
| > 12 tense: tendu
| > tensely: d'une voix tendue
| > 13 to thank : remercier
| > thankful : reconnaissant
| > thankfulness: ingrat
| > 14 thatch: chaume
| > thatched cottage: chaumi�re
| > 15 thick: �pais
| > thick-lipped: lippu
| > thickly: en une couche �paisse
| > 16 thigh: cuisse
| > thighbone: f�mur
| > 17 thin: mince
| > thinly: en tranches minces
| >
| >
| >
|
| 
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