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Started by Johan Viroux
Thu, 31 Mar 2005 13:10
French: poor - English: rich (21/100)
Author: Johan Viroux
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 13:10
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 13:10
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French has a poor vocabulary (Andr� Martinet (Sorbonne University - Paris)) (it must often borrow words from Greek and Latin to make new words and the derivation system is inefficient). In comparison, English has a much more developed vocabulary, BESIDE the words from Latin and Greek. Moreover, the close semantic link between the different lexemes listed here can be directly observed by the English speaker. This is not the case for the corresponding French words. Let us compare: 1 T: T, t� T-square: �querre en T, t� 2 tact : tact tactful : plein de tact tactfully : avec tact tactfulness : tact 3 tail: queue long-tailed: � la queue longue 4 tank : r�servoir a tankful of petrol : un r�servoir (plein) d'essence a tankful of water : une citerne (pleine) d'eau 5 tax : taxe, imp�t tax avoidance : �vasion fiscale tax collector : percepteur tax payer : contribuable 6 teen : dix teenager : adolescent 7 teeth (< tooth) : dent to teethe : faire ses dents teething: pouss�e des dents, dentition 8 temper: humeur good-tempered: de bonne humeur 9 to tempt: tenter tempter: tentateur tempting: tentant temptingly: d'une mani�re tentante 10 ten: dix tenfold : d�cuple (cf sevenfold) 11 tender: tendre tender-hearted: sensible, compatissant tender-heartedness: compassion 12 tense: tendu tensely: d'une voix tendue 13 to thank : remercier thankful : reconnaissant thankfulness: ingrat 14 thatch: chaume thatched cottage: chaumi�re 15 thick: �pais thick-lipped: lippu thickly: en une couche �paisse 16 thigh: cuisse thighbone: f�mur 17 thin: mince thinly: en tranches minces
Re: French: poor - English: rich (21/100)
Author: Jacques Latreille
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 04:05
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 04:05
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NE JAMAIS OUBLIER QUE L'ORIGINE DE L'ANGLAIS EST LE FRANCAIS .... AUTREMENT DIT, SANS LE FRANCAIS , L'ANGLAIS SERAIT UNE LANGUE MORIBONDE OU INEXISTANTE !!! "Johan Viroux" <ABC.Service.Langues@skynet.be> a �crit dans le message de news: 424bf609$0$28076$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be... > French has a poor vocabulary (Andr� Martinet (Sorbonne University - > Paris)) > (it must often borrow words from Greek and Latin to make new words and the > derivation system is inefficient). In comparison, English has a much more > developed vocabulary, BESIDE the words from Latin and Greek. > Moreover, the close semantic link between the different lexemes listed > here > can be directly observed by the English speaker. This is not the case for > the corresponding French words. > Let us compare: > > 1 T: T, t� > T-square: �querre en T, t� > 2 tact : tact > tactful : plein de tact > tactfully : avec tact > tactfulness : tact > 3 tail: queue > long-tailed: � la queue longue > 4 tank : r�servoir > a tankful of petrol : un r�servoir (plein) d'essence > a tankful of water : une citerne (pleine) d'eau > 5 tax : taxe, imp�t > tax avoidance : �vasion fiscale > tax collector : percepteur > tax payer : contribuable > 6 teen : dix > teenager : adolescent > 7 teeth (< tooth) : dent > to teethe : faire ses dents > teething: pouss�e des dents, dentition > 8 temper: humeur > good-tempered: de bonne humeur > 9 to tempt: tenter > tempter: tentateur > tempting: tentant > temptingly: d'une mani�re tentante > 10 ten: dix > tenfold : d�cuple (cf sevenfold) > 11 tender: tendre > tender-hearted: sensible, compatissant > tender-heartedness: compassion > 12 tense: tendu > tensely: d'une voix tendue > 13 to thank : remercier > thankful : reconnaissant > thankfulness: ingrat > 14 thatch: chaume > thatched cottage: chaumi�re > 15 thick: �pais > thick-lipped: lippu > thickly: en une couche �paisse > 16 thigh: cuisse > thighbone: f�mur > 17 thin: mince > thinly: en tranches minces > > >
Re: French: poor - English: rich (21/100)
Author: Kaffars
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 02:50
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 02:50
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First of all, the origin of the English language is not French. In 1066 William conquered England. The French controlled England for 85 years during which the English language was banned in the courts etc. During this period, the English language tripled it's vocabulary...such words as royal,table etc. were added (became a part of the language.) Also, the English language was controlled by a comittee and there was a question of the language becoming impure due to words from other languages(from it's colonies).But those who fought this , claiming that these words from other languages enrich the English language won out. Thus, these words have been claimed by the English language. It is said that(half jokingly) that English is a dialect of the French language. In fact, English and French have much vocabulary in common. Pronunciation differs and grammar is slightly different. But the conjugation of verbs is very different. French having it's roots in latin...in my opinion, has not evolved to the simplicity that English has.This is partly due also because of the industrial revolution. I don't see why those in controll of the French language do not allow the language to evolve. example...player cassette player record player cd player tape player if a new product developes such as a txxat then you would play it on a txxat player. In English..following the above method, one can make up new words and every English speaking person would undestand. The French language seems to be less inovative when it comes to new products.This was alright when we lived on farms and had a limited need of a few thousand words, but memorizing new words such as a balladeur etc will oneday overwhelm the French speaker. "Jacques Latreille" <latj@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:ww4qf.1763$1Y4.170759@news20.bellglobal.com... | NE JAMAIS OUBLIER QUE L'ORIGINE DE L'ANGLAIS EST LE FRANCAIS .... | AUTREMENT DIT, SANS LE FRANCAIS , L'ANGLAIS SERAIT UNE LANGUE MORIBONDE OU | INEXISTANTE !!! | | | "Johan Viroux" <ABC.Service.Langues@skynet.be> a �crit dans le message de | news: 424bf609$0$28076$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be... | > French has a poor vocabulary (Andr� Martinet (Sorbonne University - | > Paris)) | > (it must often borrow words from Greek and Latin to make new words and the | > derivation system is inefficient). In comparison, English has a much more | > developed vocabulary, BESIDE the words from Latin and Greek. | > Moreover, the close semantic link between the different lexemes listed | > here | > can be directly observed by the English speaker. This is not the case for | > the corresponding French words. | > Let us compare: | > | > 1 T: T, t� | > T-square: �querre en T, t� | > 2 tact : tact | > tactful : plein de tact | > tactfully : avec tact | > tactfulness : tact | > 3 tail: queue | > long-tailed: � la queue longue | > 4 tank : r�servoir | > a tankful of petrol : un r�servoir (plein) d'essence | > a tankful of water : une citerne (pleine) d'eau | > 5 tax : taxe, imp�t | > tax avoidance : �vasion fiscale | > tax collector : percepteur | > tax payer : contribuable | > 6 teen : dix | > teenager : adolescent | > 7 teeth (< tooth) : dent | > to teethe : faire ses dents | > teething: pouss�e des dents, dentition | > 8 temper: humeur | > good-tempered: de bonne humeur | > 9 to tempt: tenter | > tempter: tentateur | > tempting: tentant | > temptingly: d'une mani�re tentante | > 10 ten: dix | > tenfold : d�cuple (cf sevenfold) | > 11 tender: tendre | > tender-hearted: sensible, compatissant | > tender-heartedness: compassion | > 12 tense: tendu | > tensely: d'une voix tendue | > 13 to thank : remercier | > thankful : reconnaissant | > thankfulness: ingrat | > 14 thatch: chaume | > thatched cottage: chaumi�re | > 15 thick: �pais | > thick-lipped: lippu | > thickly: en une couche �paisse | > 16 thigh: cuisse | > thighbone: f�mur | > 17 thin: mince | > thinly: en tranches minces | > | > | > | |
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