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Re: A Rifle in Every Pot

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From: John-Melb
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 23:28
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Carl Nisarel wrote:
> Glenn Reynolds is simply wrong on that claim.
>
> Since he knows the claim is false, he is knowingly writing a lie.

Carl, I found this,
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Here is a tale of two cities: one that banned handguns and one that
required guns. Guess which town enjoyed a plunge in crime.

In June 1981, Morton Grove, Ill., a northern suburb of Chicago, passed
an ordinance banning handguns. In reaction, Kennesaw, Ga., a northern
suburb of Atlanta, passed an ordinance requiring heads of households
"to maintain a firearm" and ammunition "to provide for the civil
defense" and "protect the general welfare of the City and its
inhabitants."

"Some people seem to think our residents are not armed," Morton Grove
Police Chief George Incledon, told United Press International on
Tuesday. The chief pointed out that the law did not prohibit ownership
of shotguns or rifles, and that gun collectors were exempt.

Many citizens prefer shotguns to handguns for home defense. Incledon
did not define "gun collector." Morton Grove residents could store
their handguns outside the village limits or at a licensed gun club.

Moreover, Incledon recalled, out of a population of 25,000, only "a few
people, maybe 10," surrendered handguns to police in the months after
the law went into effect.

Similarly, Kennesaw's law provides so many loopholes that, in effect,
no one is compelled to obey it. Convicted felons are, of course,
excluded. Also exempt are those "who suffer a physical disability
[undefined] which would prohibit them from using such a firearm" and
those who "conscientiously oppose firearms as a result of religious
doctrine or belief [also undefined]." Inhabitants may claim exemptions
for moral or financial reasons, said Detective Cpl. Craig Graydon, a
Kennesaw Police Department spokesman, in a phone interview Tuesday.

According to a National Rifle Association document, the law was not
expected to increase gun ownership. "It was expected that publicity
surrounding the ordinance would warn criminals that residents were
capable of protecting themselves and their community and would do so
with the government's blessing," the document said.

The results?

Not much of anything in Morton Grove. "We were fortunate to have a low
rate of violent crime before the ordinance was passed, and we are
fortunate now that the rate is still low," Incledon told UPI.

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But Kennesaw's crime rate plummeted. In fact, the number of some crimes
declined amid soaring population growth. For example, in figures the
city provided to the FBI Uniform Crime Report, Kennesaw had 54
burglaries in 1981 ? the year before the gun ordinance ? with a
population of 5,242. In 1999, with a population of 19,000, only 36
burglaries were reported.

The rate of violent crime is approximately four times lower than the
state and national rates, Kennesaw's Crime Statistics Report said.
"Violent crime is almost nonexistent in residential neighborhoods,"
Graydon told UPI. The detective, who has been with the police
department since 1986, said the isolated exceptions take place in
motels or in commercial areas.

Graydon said he has lived in the area since 1979 and has heard no open
opposition to the gun law. This remains the case even though most of
Kennesaw's newcomers are from northern states.

Asked whether the ordinance has attracted new people to Kennesaw,
Graydon said: "Not specifically the law itself, but quite a few people
cite the low crime rate, which a lot of people do attribute, at least
in part, to the gun law."

The detective said Kennesaw used state criteria for carrying a
concealed handgun. "It's not that difficult" to get the license, he
said. Unlike some other jurisdictions, Georgia does not require permit
holders to submit the serial numbers of their handguns to the police.
"We don't register firearms down here," Graydon said.

On Tuesday afternoon, Handgun Control's Washington office was invited
to comment on Kennesaw's crime statistics. A spokeswoman there replied
that no one from the organization could address the issue until after a
press conference.

Copyright 2001 by United Press International. All rights reserved.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/3/27/223955.shtmlNewsMax
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Since Carl Nisarel  knows the claim is false, he is knowingly writing a
lie.

ANother anti found to be nothing but a bloody liar, how unusual!
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