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Re: Are many also fleeing north to escape the Gun Violence ?

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From: D. Staples
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 23:08
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Nice little bit of propaganda, subject, now fuck off.

"The Gunboards at http://amazingforums.com/forum3/AUSSIESEEK/forum.html" 
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Sadly thanks to Bush the USA is now a   country where life, liberty and


the pursuit of happiness as inalienable rights are no more


US Prisons such as Guant�namo in a us occupied area of cuba are
typical where many are held without any legal reason.. hundreds of
people of more than 30 nationalities continue to be held there: without



charge, and with little hope of obtaining a fair trial oncluding
Australian David Hicks who has been jailed for 7 years..


Several things are clear about the Hicks case. First, he is not alleged



to have hurt anyone at all. Second, he has not broken the laws of
Australia, USA or any country.


In January 2002, the US authorities transferred the first "war on
terror" detainees - hooded and shackled - to the US Naval Base in
Guant�namo Bay, Cuba.


Despite major international outcry and expert condemnation, hundreds of



people of more than 30 nationalities continue to be held there: Though
US authorities have repeatedly called the detainees "terrorists" and
"killers", many have been released without charge.


US official investigators and detainees have reported torture and other



ill-treatment, and the conditions of detention remain inhumane


.Many have fled north across the border  and won asylum in Canada on
the basis that they would endure cruel and unusual punishment in the
usa,In order for a U.S. case to succeed, the claimant must make the
case they will be subjected to cruel and unusual punishment in the
United States - or persecuted due to their race, religion,
nationality, political opinion or membership in a particular social
group.


 One included a Colombian family with three children, two of whom had
been born in the United States.


The Canadian  IRB has  released details to of cases, American refugee
claimants, including U.S. Army war deserters, a New Yorker who said she



was traumatized by the terrorist attacks of 9/11, a man who claimed he
was being pursued by the CIA and a native Indian activist fleeing
prosecution and many involving U.S.-born children of refugee claimants.



One involved a couple from Yemen, who feared they would be slain in an
honour killing if sent home.


The couple married in Yemen against their parents' wishes, prompting
the man's father to sign a document saying his son had to be disposed
of in an honour killing if he did not divorce his wife.


In 2001, the claimant was threatened at gunpoint, which he took as a
warning that the agreement was for real.


Tribal violence is common in Yemen, and the penal code allows for
leniency for people guilty of committing a crime to defend the family's



honour, according to the IRB decision.


The board member accepted their story, and also granted asylum to their



U.S.-born child.


In another case, an Albanian couple and their two U.S.-born children
were all granted asylum, based on the couple's fear they would be
persecuted in their homeland because of an alleged "blood feud."


Another case involved a Nigerian woman who fled her abusive husband and



gave birth to her child in the United States, before seeking asylum
north of the border.


The final case focused on a young woman and her brother, who was born
in the United States. The woman had U.S. residency, but no permanent
status.


Born in Germany of Bangladeshi origin, the woman had moved with her
family to the United States and then back to Bangladesh.


Forced to flee an abusive father, she returned to the United States,
taking her six-year-old brother after her mother fell ill and was no
longer able to care for him.


The IRB ruled that if the child was returned to the United States, he
would likely end up in a foster home.


"If he is deported and goes back to the U.S., having nobody to look
after him, having no home to go to, having no loving family but just
strangers, [he] would face the worst form of cruel and unusual
punishment," IRB member Azhar Ali Khan ruled.


"That could scar him for life and turn him into a very frightened and
insecure human being."


But...There are some indications that with the recent gains by the
democrats that democracy may one day return to the usa.


But dont hold your breath.


If you speak out against bush and the  killing of american youth in
IRAQ.... they may hold it for you.


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From: "D. Staples" <forester66@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: Are many also  fleeing north to escape the Gun Violence ?
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:08:42 -0600
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