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On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 21:16:01 -0700, "VPD Det." <VanduPoliceDept@gov.bc.ca>
wrote:

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On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 10:35:51 -0600 (CST), you wrote:

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|>Sebz: "zerq" <zerq@295.pn>
|>Subject: Re: B.C. long-gun registry worth a look, women's advocate says
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|>THIS HAS nothing TO DO WITH SAFETY OF WOMEN OR ANYBODY ELSE .
|>
|>IT IS STRICTLY A CONCERTED EFFORT ON THE PART OF WOMENS GROUPS TO EMASCULATE
|>ALL MEN AND MAKE THEM INTO WOOSIES.
|>ED/ON




--------------------**I forgot to post the Cite**--------------------
(http://www.straight.com/article-466341/vancouver/bc-longgun-registry-worth-look-advocate-says)



"WOMEN'S GROUPS Don't EMASCULATE" they feminize/gentrify, till you faint at
the sight of their ankles, and always tip your pussy-wooped hat.

	It's a big Joan of Arc concept, but they forgot to cut off their
left breast, just like a real dyke. 

	They have signs and posters building up the "Women's" rights, by
hiring them as CEO, or using drag queens or whatever they are, as
Managers.....

	The signs SAY it a crime to call a "female" FAT, UGLY, DIRTY or
anything that is NOT a Complement...talk about Conspiracies.....and I
thought uttering "death threats" was a joke.
 	
	Half breed welfare cheques get a big perk out of this Gentrification
of men. The Atira/lookout/BC/Homeless Industry housing of subsidized women's
rights committee have rec havocked all over by having many new (25 year)
buildings demolished, and rebuilt by totally computer generated
impossibilities that can't hold a contract.....
	
	They have a big fixation on *private toilets* in SROs....till they
all look just like a Jail Cell.....but toilets are a big thing to them.
Where is a private toilet tantamount to a homeless person.
  
	The money comes from anti-gun Johnny Carline of the Yookay GVRD, who
is responsible for the shutting down of 14 shooting ranges with false
documents in the Vancouver Area.

	The hells angels finance a lot of transactions with BC Housing/GVRD
Homeless, but apparently NOT too many people care a bout that......as long
as the money and food services are active.

	We know who the HAMC are, and that's off/on shore banking, "dope"
and filtering.......**I don't care**, but the HAMC are not exactly
philanthropists, hell they often borderline ^indian giving^ and ^gypsy
switching^ ,  just like
RCMP/Police "services" and Canada-China Yookay based 419/etc. rip-offs.

No free Lunches.

Bob 
 
-- 
**Father to Son in a Facts of Life Lecture**:
	Son, someday you will make a girl very happy, 
for a short period of time.
Then she will leave you and be with new men who 
are ten times better than you.
............These men are called ^BIKERS^........

On 9/23/2011 10:18 PM, R. L. wrote:

> --------------------**I forgot to post the Cite**--------------------
> (http://www.straight.com/article-466341/vancouver/bc-longgun-registry-worth-look-advocate-says)

The problem with establishing provincial gun registries has been pointed 
out before, and that is provinces do not have the ability to make 
criminal code amendments.  That means a provincial registry would only 
be enforceable though provisions such as fines and confiscation threats, 
but not criminal prosecution.  In other words, a provincial registry 
would be toothless and useless.

Also, it has been established in the courts that guns are 'special 
property' and therefore subject to federal jurisdiction.  This is thanks 
to an Alberta challenge that argued guns are private property and 
therefore subject to provincial jurisdiction, but the Supreme Court 
disagreed and declared them a 'special' kind of property.  The long-gun 
registry would have unraveled a decade ago if not for this 
Liberal-friendly ruling.

Fortunately, that ruling now works in favour of thwarting provincial 
registries because it took gun control jurisdiction away from the provinces.

On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 22:48:19 -0700, Chom Noamsky <beaver@stew.tasty> wrote:

|>On 9/23/2011 10:18 PM, R. L. wrote:
|>
|>> --------------------**I forgot to post the Cite**--------------------
|>> (http://www.straight.com/article-466341/vancouver/bc-longgun-registry-worth-look-advocate-says)
|>
|>The problem with establishing provincial gun registries has been pointed 
|>out before, and that is provinces do not have the ability to make 
|>criminal code amendments.  That means a provincial registry would only 
|>be enforceable though provisions such as fines and confiscation threats, 
|>but not criminal prosecution.  In other words, a provincial registry 
|>would be toothless and useless.
|>

I been there Section 28 86(2) subsection 119/Improper storage spawned by
some concerned yookay citizen. 

	The local police seem to think they are federal, and really like to
barge in houses to push their big gang, many guns religion...rather yellow
of them.

	They don't just disarm you on the spot, they also collect your
collection to see how much money they can extort from you.

	Most cops don't even have a firearm permit, except for the police
commissioner/superintendent's say so.


|>Also, it has been established in the courts that guns are 'special 
|>property' and therefore subject to federal jurisdiction.  This is thanks 
|>to an Alberta challenge that argued guns are private property and 
|>therefore subject to provincial jurisdiction, but the Supreme Court 
|>disagreed and declared them a 'special' kind of property.  The long-gun 
|>registry would have unraveled a decade ago if not for this 
|>Liberal-friendly ruling.
|>
|>Fortunately, that ruling now works in favour of thwarting provincial 
|>registries because it took gun control jurisdiction away from the provinces.

	Well that's a good sign, a use of their paper butt law philosophy
back into their faces!

	I still think that registering 1 million++ rifles, would just erode
the registry to a pale fart, as if it isn't that so far.

	The registry is just billion$ of special computers/programming and
tons of bandwidth for all Leos and Fips.

Bob

-- 
**Father to Son in a Facts of Life Lecture**:
	Son, someday you will make a girl very happy, 
for a short period of time.
Then she will leave you and be with new men who 
are ten times better than you.
........These men are called ^GUN OWNERS^........ 

On Sep 23, 11:16 pm, "VPD Det." <VanduPoliceD...@gov.bc.ca> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 10:35:51 -0600 (CST), you wrote:
>
>|> Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 13:43:15 -0400
>|> From: "mred" <z...@295.pn>
>|> Subject: Re: B.C. long-gun registry worth a look, women's advocate says
>|>
>|> THIS HAS nothing TO DO WITH SAFETY OF WOMEN OR ANYBODY ELSE .
>|>
>|> IT IS STRICTLY A CONCERTED EFFORT ON THE PART OF WOMENS
>|> GROUPS TO EMASCULATE|>ALL MEN AND MAKE THEM INTO WOOSIES.
>|> ED/ON

Well, Ed; I don't know about that "emasculate" rant, but:

Prime Minister Harper to end long-gun registry...
April 04, 2011

Today, Prime Minister Stephen Harper announced that a re-elected
Conservative Government will introduce legislation to scrap the long-
gun registry once and for all...

Prime Minister Harper pointed out the Government’s strong record of
support for law-abiding farmers and hunters.  “Our Government has long
opposed the wasteful and ineffective long-gun registry,” Harper said.
“We must stop targeting law-abiding gun owners, and instead focus our
resources on real criminals.  That’s why a re-elected majority
Conservative Government will scrap the wasteful and inefficient long-
gun registry once and for all.”

To date, the Conservative Government’s efforts to end the long-gun
registry have been blocked in Parliament by the Michael Ignatieff-led
Coalition with the Bloc Québécois and NDP.  Conservative MP Candice
Hoeppner’s bill to end the long-gun registry was defeated by two
votes.  Coalition MPs — including those representing rural ridings —
voted with their party leadership, which is out of touch with small
and rural communities.  They voted against the interests of their
constituents.

The Prime Minister observed that Canadians face a real choice on this
issue.  “The Ignatieff-led Coalition has consistently opposed our
Government’s efforts to crack down on real criminals while insisting
on heaping penalties on law-abiding citizens,” the Prime Minister
noted.  “Only a majority Conservative Government can be counted on to
scrap the long-gun registry.”

THE ISSUE

In 1993, the previous Liberal Government introduced Bill C-68, An Act
Respecting Firearms and Other Weapons, which received Royal Assent in
1995.  The registration portion of the legislation was implemented in
2001 and became mandatory in 2003.

At the time it was introduced, the Liberals told Canadians repeatedly
that the long-gun registry would cost only $2 million.

In 2002, Auditor General Sheila Fraser released a report showing the
registry’s cost was dramatically over budget.  The registry has now
cost Canadian taxpayers over $2 billion.  The Liberals have never
adequately explained to Parliament or the public their misleading
statements about cost.

The Conservative Party of Canada has long opposed the long-gun
registry.

The long-gun registry is wasteful and ineffective.  It needlessly and
unfairly targets law-abiding Canadians, particularly in rural areas
and smaller communities.  It does nothing to reduce crime, or to
strengthen our efforts to keep guns out of the hands of criminals.

In 2009, Conservative MP Candice Hoeppner introduced a Private
Member’s Bill (C-391) to repeal the long-gun registry.

This important bill passed Second Reading in a vote of the House of
Commons, with all Conservative MPs and a few Opposition MPs voting in
favour.

But when the bill was called for Third Reading, it was defeated after
several Ignatieff Liberal and NDP MPs bowed to pressure from their
party leadership and changed their votes.

All Bloc Quebecois MPs voted against the bill on both the Second and
Third Readings.  The Ignatieff-led Coalition showed itself to be out
of touch with Canadians in rural areas and small communities,
including people in the regions of Quebec.  Many Ignatieff-led
Coalition MPs sided with their party hierarchy rather than
representing the interests of their constituents.

The following Ignatieff-led Coalition MPs voted to defeat the bill
after having previously voted to support it on Second Reading.

Ignatieff Liberals:
Wayne Easter, Malpeque
Jean-Claude D’Amours, Madawaska—Restigouche
Keith Martin, Esquimalt—Juan de Fuca
Scott Simms, Bonavista—Gander—Grand Falls—Windsor
Todd Russell, Labrador
Larry Bagnell, Yukon
Anthony Rota, Nipissing—Timiskaming
Scott Andrews, Avalon

NDP:
Charlie Angus, Timmins—James Bay
Glenn Thibeault, Sudbury
Claude Gravelle, Nickel Belt
Carol Hughes, Algoma—Manitoulin—Kapuskasing
Malcolm Allen, Welland
Peter Stoffer, Sackville—Eastern Shore

THE PLAN
Stephen Harper’s Government has strongly and consistently opposed the
long-gun registry.

With a full mandate, a re-elected Harper Government will:

◦Scrap the long-gun registry once and for all.
◦Create a new hunting and wildlife advisory panel comprised of
representatives from hunting, fishing and conservation organizations
to ensure government decisions about issues such as endangered
species, wetland protection and nature conservation are based on solid
science and balanced advice.

Eliminating the registry will save taxpayers money, and will ensure
that farmers and duck hunters are not treated like criminals.

THE CHOICE
The position of Stephen Harper’s Conservative Party on the long-gun
registry is clear.  The registry is wasteful and ineffective, and must
be scrapped.

In contrast, the Ignatieff-led Coalition with the NDP and Bloc
Québécois has opposed our efforts to crack down on criminals who use
guns, while insisting on heaping penalties and bureaucracy on farmers
and duck hunters.

The Ignatieff-led Coalition supports the maintenance of the long-gun
registry, even though it targets the wrong people, including hunters,
farmers, outdoorsmen and women, as well as police officers.

The choice is clear: only Stephen Harper’s Conservative MPs can be
trusted to scrap the wasteful and ineffective long-gun registry.
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http://www.nfa.ca/prime-minister-harper-end-long-gun-registry-and-establish-hunting-and-wildlife-advisory-panel