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Started by Mary Alison
Sat, 25 May 2013 05:07
I predict far more
Author: Mary Alison
Date: Sat, 25 May 2013 05:07
Date: Sat, 25 May 2013 05:07
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Unfree Kingdom bans all guns, and now no one can defend themselves against a beheading of a soldier in the street, in broad daylight! Bloody murder! I predict that, with their sad socialist history of this past century, and exponential growth in the muslim population, along with allowing Sharia Law in their nation, that this is only the beginning and they will see far, far more of this kind of thing! "Still, if you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than live as slaves." -Sir Winston Churchill The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed, and this without any qualification as to their condition or degree, as is the case in the British government. -- This may be considered as the true palladium of liberty... The right of self-defense is the first law of nature; in most governments it has been the study of rulers to confine this right within the narrowest limits possible. Whenever standing armies are kept up, and the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under any color or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already annihilated, is on the brink of destruction. - St. George Tucker, Blackstone's Commentaries on the Laws of England (1803) ( From which U.S. laws regarding the RKBA ( Human Right to Keep & Bear Arms ) derrived ) "Within the month, the convention had presented William and Mary with a Declaration of Rights that enumerated the ways in which James II had subverted the Constitution and the realm; listed thirteen rights and liberties of the people of England it characterized as "true, ancient and indubitable" that were to be recognized unequivocally; and elevated William and Mary to the throne as king and queen of England." - To Keep And Bear Arms by Dr. Joyce Malcolm Fundamental, true ancient and indubitable human right. http://www.a-human-right.com/introduction.html "Now in pursuance of the premises the said Lords Spiritual and Temporal and Commons in Parliament assembled, for the ratifying, confirming and establishing the said declaration and the articles, clauses, matters and things therein contained by the force of law made in due form by authority of Parliament, do pray that it may be declared and enacted that all and singular the rights and liberties asserted and claimed in the said declaration are the true, ancient and indubitable rights and liberties of the people of this kingdom, and so shall be esteemed, allowed, adjudged, deemed and taken to be; and that all and every the particulars aforesaid shall be firmly and strictly holden and observed as they are expressed in the said declaration, and all officers and ministers whatsoever shall serve their Majesties and their successors according to the same in all time to come. ... That the subjects which are Protestants may have arms for their defence suitable to their conditions and as allowed by law; ..." - English Bill of Rights 1689
Re: I predict far more
Author: a425couple
Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 13:50
Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 13:50
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"Mary Alison" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message... > Unfree Kingdom bans all guns, and now no one can defend themselves against > a beheading of a soldier in the street, in broad daylight! Bloody > murder!--- > ... The right of self-defense is the first law of > nature; in most governments it has been the study of rulers to confine > this > right within the narrowest limits possible. Whenever standing armies are > kept up, and the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under any > color or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already > annihilated, is on the brink of destruction. - St. George Tucker, > Blackstone's Commentaries on the Laws of England (1803) ( From which U.S. > laws regarding the RKBA ( Human Right to Keep & Bear Arms ) derrived ) Yes, the US situation owes a lot to what great English thinkers like Blackstone and John Locke wrote. > That the subjects which are Protestants may have arms for their defence > suitable to their conditions and as allowed by law; ..." - English Bill of > Rights 1689 Not a real clear bright line, is it? By the way, what country are you in?
Re: I predict far more
Author: keithr
Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 10:28
Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 10:28
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On 28/05/2013 11:50 PM, a425couple wrote: > "Mary Alison" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message... >> Unfree Kingdom bans all guns, and now no one can defend themselves >> against >> a beheading of a soldier in the street, in broad daylight! Bloody >> murder!--- > >> ... The right of self-defense is the first law of >> nature; in most governments it has been the study of rulers to confine >> this >> right within the narrowest limits possible. Whenever standing armies are >> kept up, and the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under any >> color or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already >> annihilated, is on the brink of destruction. - St. George Tucker, >> Blackstone's Commentaries on the Laws of England (1803) ( From which U.S. >> laws regarding the RKBA ( Human Right to Keep & Bear Arms ) derrived ) > > Yes, the US situation owes a lot to what great English > thinkers like Blackstone and John Locke wrote. > >> That the subjects which are Protestants may have arms for their defence >> suitable to their conditions and as allowed by law; ..." - English >> Bill of >> Rights 1689 > > Not a real clear bright line, is it? > > By the way, what country are you in? Lalaland
Re: I predict far more
Author: Truebrit
Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 13:16
Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 13:16
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> On 28/05/2013 11:50 PM, a425couple wrote: >> "Mary Alison" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message... >>> Unfree Kingdom bans all guns, and now no one can defend themselves >>> against >>> a beheading of a soldier in the street, in broad daylight! Bloody >>> murder!--- >> >>> ... The right of self-defense is the first law of >>> nature; in most governments it has been the study of rulers to confine >>> this >>> right within the narrowest limits possible. Whenever standing armies are >>> kept up, and the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under any >>> color or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already >>> annihilated, is on the brink of destruction. - St. George Tucker, >>> Blackstone's Commentaries on the Laws of England (1803) ( From which >>> U.S. >>> laws regarding the RKBA ( Human Right to Keep & Bear Arms ) derrived ) >> >> Yes, the US situation owes a lot to what great English >> thinkers like Blackstone and John Locke wrote. >> >>> That the subjects which are Protestants may have arms for their defence >>> suitable to their conditions and as allowed by law; ..." - English >>> Bill of >>> Rights 1689 >> >> Not a real clear bright line, is it? >> >> By the way, what country are you in? > >"keithr" <user@domain.invalid> wrote: Lalaland > Given the content of your posts I would say you are well situated. Truebrit.
Re: I predict far more
Author: keithr
Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2013 11:23
Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2013 11:23
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On 29/05/2013 11:16 PM, Truebrit wrote: >> On 28/05/2013 11:50 PM, a425couple wrote: >>> "Mary Alison" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message... >>>> Unfree Kingdom bans all guns, and now no one can defend themselves >>>> against >>>> a beheading of a soldier in the street, in broad daylight! Bloody >>>> murder!--- >>> >>>> ... The right of self-defense is the first law of >>>> nature; in most governments it has been the study of rulers to confine >>>> this >>>> right within the narrowest limits possible. Whenever standing armies are >>>> kept up, and the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under any >>>> color or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already >>>> annihilated, is on the brink of destruction. - St. George Tucker, >>>> Blackstone's Commentaries on the Laws of England (1803) ( From which >>>> U.S. >>>> laws regarding the RKBA ( Human Right to Keep & Bear Arms ) derrived ) >>> >>> Yes, the US situation owes a lot to what great English >>> thinkers like Blackstone and John Locke wrote. >>> >>>> That the subjects which are Protestants may have arms for their defence >>>> suitable to their conditions and as allowed by law; ..." - English >>>> Bill of >>>> Rights 1689 >>> >>> Not a real clear bright line, is it? >>> >>> By the way, what country are you in? >> >> "keithr" <user@domain.invalid> wrote: Lalaland >> > > Given the content of your posts I would say you are well situated. > Truebrit. > > Not real bright at picking up context are you?
Re: I predict far more
Author: Truebrit
Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2013 13:22
Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2013 13:22
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> ,>>> On 28/05/2013 11:50 PM, a425couple wrote: >>>> "Mary Alison" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message... >>>>> Unfree Kingdom bans all guns, and now no one can defend themselves >>>>> against >>>>> a beheading of a soldier in the street, in broad daylight! Bloody >>>>> murder!--- >>>> >>>>> ... The right of self-defense is the first law of >>>>> nature; in most governments it has been the study of rulers to confine >>>>> this >>>>> right within the narrowest limits possible. Whenever standing armies >>>>> are >>>>> kept up, and the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under >>>>> any >>>>> color or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already >>>>> annihilated, is on the brink of destruction. - St. George Tucker, >>>>> Blackstone's Commentaries on the Laws of England (1803) ( From which >>>>> U.S. >>>>> laws regarding the RKBA ( Human Right to Keep & Bear Arms ) >>>>> derrived ) >>>> >>>> Yes, the US situation owes a lot to what great English >>>> thinkers like Blackstone and John Locke wrote. >>>> >>>>> That the subjects which are Protestants may have arms for their >>>>> defence >>>>> suitable to their conditions and as allowed by law; ..." - English >>>>> Bill of >>>>> Rights 1689 >>>> >>>> Not a real clear bright line, is it? >>>> >>>> By the way, what country are you in? >>> >>> "keithr" <user@domain.invalid> wrote: Lalaland >>> >> Truebrit wrote: >> Given the content of your posts I would say you are well situated. >> Truebrit. > >"keithr" <user@domain.invalid> wrote: > Not real bright at picking up context are you? Not real bright in knowing where the place commonly referred to as, Lalaland is are you? Truebrit
Re: I predict far more
Author: Truebrit
Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2013 00:46
Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2013 00:46
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>>>>>>> On 28/05/2013 11:50 PM, a425couple wrote: >>>>>> "Mary Alison" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message... >>>>>>> Unfree Kingdom bans all guns, and now no one can defend themselves >>>>>>> against >>>>>>> a beheading of a soldier in the street, in broad daylight! Bloody >>>>>>> murder!--- >>>>>> >>>>>>> ... The right of self-defense is the first law of >>>>>>> nature; in most governments it has been the study of rulers to >>>>>>> confine >>>>>>> this >>>>>>> right within the narrowest limits possible. Whenever standing armies >>>>>>> are >>>>>>> kept up, and the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under >>>>>>> any >>>>>>> color or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already >>>>>>> annihilated, is on the brink of destruction. - St. George Tucker, >>>>>>> Blackstone's Commentaries on the Laws of England (1803) ( From which >>>>>>> U.S. >>>>>>> laws regarding the RKBA ( Human Right to Keep & Bear Arms ) >>>>>>> derrived ) >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, the US situation owes a lot to what great English >>>>>> thinkers like Blackstone and John Locke wrote. >>>>>> >>>>>>> That the subjects which are Protestants may have arms for their >>>>>>> defence >>>>>>> suitable to their conditions and as allowed by law; ..." - English >>>>>>> Bill of >>>>>>> Rights 1689 >>>>>> >>>>>> Not a real clear bright line, is it? >>>>>> >>>>>> By the way, what country are you in? >>>>> >>>>> "keithr" <user@domain.invalid> wrote: Lalaland >>>>> >>>> Truebrit wrote: >>>> Given the content of your posts I would say you are well situated. >>>> Truebrit. >>> >>> "keithr" <user@domain.invalid> wrote: >>> Not real bright at picking up context are you? >> >>Truebrit wrote: >> Not real bright in knowing where the place commonly referred to as, >> Lalaland >> is are you? >> Truebrit >> > >"keithr" <user@domain.invalid> wrote: <yawn> Judging by the quality of your >arguments, it could quite possibly be the UK. > <Yawn> Epic fail on your behalf. Truebrit.
Re: I predict far more
Author: keithr
Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2013 10:24
Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2013 10:24
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On 6/06/2013 10:46 AM, Truebrit wrote: >>>>>>>> On 28/05/2013 11:50 PM, a425couple wrote: >>>>>>> "Mary Alison" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message... >>>>>>>> Unfree Kingdom bans all guns, and now no one can defend themselves >>>>>>>> against >>>>>>>> a beheading of a soldier in the street, in broad daylight! Bloody >>>>>>>> murder!--- >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ... The right of self-defense is the first law of >>>>>>>> nature; in most governments it has been the study of rulers to >>>>>>>> confine >>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>> right within the narrowest limits possible. Whenever standing armies >>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>> kept up, and the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under >>>>>>>> any >>>>>>>> color or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already >>>>>>>> annihilated, is on the brink of destruction. - St. George Tucker, >>>>>>>> Blackstone's Commentaries on the Laws of England (1803) ( From which >>>>>>>> U.S. >>>>>>>> laws regarding the RKBA ( Human Right to Keep & Bear Arms ) >>>>>>>> derrived ) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, the US situation owes a lot to what great English >>>>>>> thinkers like Blackstone and John Locke wrote. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> That the subjects which are Protestants may have arms for their >>>>>>>> defence >>>>>>>> suitable to their conditions and as allowed by law; ..." - English >>>>>>>> Bill of >>>>>>>> Rights 1689 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Not a real clear bright line, is it? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> By the way, what country are you in? >>>>>> >>>>>> "keithr" <user@domain.invalid> wrote: Lalaland >>>>>> >>>>> Truebrit wrote: >>>>> Given the content of your posts I would say you are well situated. >>>>> Truebrit. >>>> >>>> "keithr" <user@domain.invalid> wrote: >>>> Not real bright at picking up context are you? >>> >>> Truebrit wrote: >>> Not real bright in knowing where the place commonly referred to as, >>> Lalaland >>> is are you? >>> Truebrit >>> >> >> "keithr" <user@domain.invalid> wrote: <yawn> Judging by the quality of your >> arguments, it could quite possibly be the UK. >> > <Yawn> Epic fail on your behalf. > Truebrit. > > If you're not in the UK then your 'nym is a lie.
Re: I predict far more
Author: Truebrit
Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2013 11:56
Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2013 11:56
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in message news:b1dqn8Fou0eU2@mid.individual.net... > On 6/06/2013 10:46 AM, Truebrit wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 28/05/2013 11:50 PM, a425couple wrote: >>>>>>>> "Mary Alison" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message... >>>>>>>>> Unfree Kingdom bans all guns, and now no one can defend themselves >>>>>>>>> against >>>>>>>>> a beheading of a soldier in the street, in broad daylight! Bloody >>>>>>>>> murder!--- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ... The right of self-defense is the first law of >>>>>>>>> nature; in most governments it has been the study of rulers to >>>>>>>>> confine >>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>> right within the narrowest limits possible. Whenever standing >>>>>>>>> armies >>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>> kept up, and the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, >>>>>>>>> under >>>>>>>>> any >>>>>>>>> color or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already >>>>>>>>> annihilated, is on the brink of destruction. - St. George Tucker, >>>>>>>>> Blackstone's Commentaries on the Laws of England (1803) ( From >>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>> U.S. >>>>>>>>> laws regarding the RKBA ( Human Right to Keep & Bear Arms ) >>>>>>>>> derrived ) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes, the US situation owes a lot to what great English >>>>>>>> thinkers like Blackstone and John Locke wrote. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> That the subjects which are Protestants may have arms for their >>>>>>>>> defence >>>>>>>>> suitable to their conditions and as allowed by law; ..." - English >>>>>>>>> Bill of >>>>>>>>> Rights 1689 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Not a real clear bright line, is it? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> By the way, what country are you in? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "keithr" <user@domain.invalid> wrote: Lalaland >>>>>>> >>>>>> Truebrit wrote: >>>>>> Given the content of your posts I would say you are well situated. >>>>>> Truebrit. >>>>> >>>>> "keithr" <user@domain.invalid> wrote: >>>>> Not real bright at picking up context are you? >>>> >>>> Truebrit wrote: >>>> Not real bright in knowing where the place commonly referred to as, >>>> Lalaland >>>> is are you? >>>> Truebrit >>>> >>> >>> "keithr" <user@domain.invalid> wrote: <yawn> Judging by the quality of >>> your >>> arguments, it could quite possibly be the UK. >> >>Truebrit wrote: >> <Yawn> Epic fail on your behalf. >> Truebrit. > > >"keithr" <user@domain.invalid> wrote: If you're not in the UK then your >'nym is a lie. > Epic fail. Again! Truebrit.
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