🚀 go-pugleaf

I'm curious, why do you cross-post this thread to "aus.politics.guns" of all
places?

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"AlanS" <sanderal2@NoSpamaruniesHotmail.com> wrote in message
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> >>The truth emerges. You believe it's responsible for the Aus
> >>government to subsidise a bunch of gun-tooting wankers
> >
> >The ADF are "a bunch of gun-toting wankers"?  Interesting concept.
> >I suppose you think the ADF shouldn't have gone to East Timor, or if
> >they did they should have left the guns at home?
>
> No actually I don't think that, maybe you should read what people
> write and not what they're not writing before you make half-arsed
> assessments such as the one above.

So what's with the comment "gun-toting wankers" then?  A firearm is one of
the tools of trade for military personnel.  You seem to have a problem with
that.  Care to expand on it?

> >>to climb Everest while at the same time they are continually taking
> >> money out of health and education.
> >
> >I don't know about your health but you're clearly a victim of poor
> >education. Are you suggesting we scrap the Defence Force so that
> >everybody can have capped teeth and university degrees?
>
> Clearly you're the victim of poor education and propaganda if you
> believe pushes to improve health and education funding are about
> everyone having capped teeth and a university degree.

Unfamiliar with the concept of sarcasm I take it?


>We are a long
> way from everyone in this country having adequate health care and a
> decent education, yet we have governments wasting money on
> non-essential services.

The ADF is a non-essential service?

>Someone has mentioned Bruce stadium, that's
> just another example of a government wasting money as is this issue.
> If the ADF has enough money to even partly pay for it's workers

The ADF doesn't have "workers", it has sailors, soldiers, and airmen.  If
you can't grasp that concept you'll have no hope of understanding the finer
points of this debate.


> to
> climb Everest then surely they have too much money

You think climbing Everest is like some sort of holiday for adrenaline
junkies.......don't you?  I suppose you think it's easy and without risks as
well.  In light of recent events even you should be able to understand it's
hard work and dangerous.

I'll let you in on a non-secret.  The ADF "subsidises" adventurous training
because there is a pay-off in it for the ADF.

If you want your leaders to be able to cope with tough situations, be able
to think under pressure, and make tough decisions, you have to let them
practise it.  To put it simply........adventurous training is a "claytons
war".  The war you have when you don't have a war.

Adversity develops courage and other traits admirable in military personnel.
Traits that aren't acquired sitting on one's duff being a big-mouth on
Usenet.


>and a 17 billion
> dollar increase over the next ten years is not justifiable,

It is if you want to live in a country at peace.


> especially when there are waiting lists for people to get life saving
> operations and for essential dental treatment.

Explain to me again why I (a taxpayer) should be footing the bill because
some dopey bastard refused to brush his teeth as a child.

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