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Article #3445Re: The Jewish View of the Messiah - www.messiahtruth.com
From: Azz Pizz
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 22:59
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 22:59
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daniel <danielthomasandrewdaly@live.com.au> wrote in news:34cc154f-86ba- 42d5-a6bc-0b9a2705a6a5@d15g2000prc.googlegroups.com: > Here is a weblink to the jewish perspective on the figure of Jesus of > Nazareth and his supposed claims at being the messiah. > > > www.messiahtruth.com > This page takes halves of sentences and conveniently switches between translations to confuse people: -- Example of half of sentence used: Matthew 20:28 (New Testament, MessiahTruth.com Translation): "Just as the son of man did not come to be served, but to serve" Matthew 20:28 (New Testament, NIV): "Just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many." -- Convenient use of language here: Psalm 146:3 (MessiahTruth.com uses KJV here): "Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help." Some newer translations (as included on BibleGateway.com): NIV: "Do not put your trust in princes, in mortal men, who cannot save." NASB: "Do not trust in princes, in mortal man, in whom there is no salvation." NLT: "Don�t put your confidence in powerful people; there is no help for you there." CEV: "You can't depend on anyone, not even a great leader." TNIV: "Do not put your trust in princes, in human beings, who cannot save." Without going through them all you can tell that KJV's "man" is the same as the modern "mankind" or feminist "humankind". -- Then MessiahTruth.com condemns St. Paul for using the exact same tactics (with some trivial changes to the verses): MessiahTruth.com quote: "One should be aware of the fact that Paul, a founding father of the early church, and the most successful missionary that ever lived, confessed to using deception and lies to make converts:" Romans 3:7 (New Testament, MessiahTruth.com Translation): "If through my lies God�s truth abounds to His glory, why am I still being condemned as a sinner?" (Most closely resembles ESV: "But if through my lie God�s truth abounds to his glory,(A) why am I still being condemned as a sinner?") Philippians 1:18 (New Testament, MessiahTruth.com Translation): "In every way, whether in pretense or in truth, Jesus is proclaimed, and in that I rejoice." (Most closely resembles ESV, and you can see their bias by changing Christ to Jesus: "What then? Only that in every way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is proclaimed, and in that I rejoice.") -- In Conclusion Believe what you want, but don't use halves of modified Bible verses while conveniently switching between translations in order to get people on your side. -- Azz Pizz Institute The OFFICIAL Verbal Diarrhea Think Tank (tm) Washington, DC
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From: Azz Pizz <penachew@yomomma.hot.invalid>
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Subject: Re: The Jewish View of the Messiah - www.messiahtruth.com
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