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Article #3458Re: Jewish Universalism
From: TyBreaker
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 09:42
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 09:42
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Arthur Brain wrote: >>working together to allow you to live and breathe. I think creation >>screams out God's glory. It's unexplainable without God in the equation. > Please explain. Read Genesis. But if you think that insufficient as "proof", I would ask you the same question, explain creation without God. I think you'll find yourself coming up short. There are plenty of theories, but as there is no proof, none can be called scientific, which is the type of proof you seem to be after. > People like you also leaped to the conclusion that the world was flat, > that the sun went around the earth, etc, etc, etc, because they lacked > the intellectual tools to enquire and learn. Brief history lesson on the topics you chose (a simple Internet search will confirm these are accurate): 1. Christopher Columbus (Christian) - founder of the "earth is round" theory which proved true. 2. Copernicus (Christian) - founder of the "earth revolves around the sun" theory which proved true. 3. Galileo (Christian) - for his works in scientific achievements in astronomy, mathematics, and physics including supporting the Copernican "earth orbits the sun" theory. 4. Isaac Newton (Christian) - for his major contributions to mathematics, optics, physics, and astronomy. He discovered the law of gravitation, formulated the basic laws of motion, developed calculus, and analyzed the nature of white light It appears Christians are the ones who discovered these truths. Why didn't your non-Christian scientists come up with these I wonder? After all they are so scientific aren't they? > You should never assume an answer because you are unable to think of > ways to properly investigate the question - your "answer" will be > likely devoid of truth and a product of various pre-conceived > subjective notions. I agree, so after my history lesson, you might have something to think about after all. > In other words you lack the intelligence or the knowledge to support > your superstitious belief. Quelle surprise. Scientific proof is only one kind of proof. As you mentioned in an earlier email, you believe Australia was populated by the Brittish because there are lots of people still living here. The same "proof" I present - where did these people come from? By definition, two people are required to make one person. So where did the first two people come from? > Would this be a "searching heart" as in the Spanish Inquisition, or > would it rather be the searching heart of those that went against the > stupidity of religion in order to bring us knowledge of the true > nature of our planet, its place in the cosmos, and the physical > phenomena which make things act and appear as they do? Just reviewing my history lesson should set you right as to who is "bringing us the knowledge of the true nature of our planet". > Did "God" explain light waves to us? Did "God" enable us to put 10Gb/s God had a brilliant Christian scientist discover the physics of optics - see history lesson on Isaac Newton. > I am interested in anything that is True. I hope so, because the truth is uncomfortable when we're on the wrong side of it but it sets us free when we embrace it. >>seek Him out and turn from your sins, He will hear you, forgive you and >>heal your life. > > > You're the one that needs healing - you hold irrational dogmatic > beliefs that cause just as much evil and damage as materialism does. I think readers will see I have defended your flimsy accusations quite well. Questions is, can you provide the proofs for your own beliefs?
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