🚀 go-pugleaf

RetroBBS NetNews Server

Inspired by RockSolid Light RIP Retro Guy

Article View: canb.general
Article #3476

Re: Jewish Universalism

#3476
From: TyBreaker
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2004 10:29
35 lines
3141 bytes
Callodyn Bradlock wrote:
 > Further, it is a universalist faith.  This means that the
 > religion originally given through the prophet Moses was intended for
 > all mankind, not just the Jews.  The idea that the Jews are seen as 
an > 'elect' people is believed to be a subtle form of racism by
 > universalists.

In one confused thought you declare you follow a religion given to Moses 
yet go on to say he is rascist.  And by declaring his words to be 
rascist, you are declaring God to be rascist as a prophet simply 
declares God's message, does he not?

Moses' own words (inspired by God Himself):

Deuteronomy 7:6 For you are a people holy to the LORD your God. The LORD 
your God has chosen you out of all the peoples on the face of the earth 
to be his people, his treasured possession.

So Moses himself declared the Jews to be an elect people.  You do 
realise that elect simply means "chosen for God's purpose" - there is no 
suggestion of superiority that you imply when you say it's rascist.  You 
are right when you say that purpose is to pass the message on to the 
peoples of the world.

So if you think you side with Moses, behold!  Moses witnesses against you!

> are simply the vehicle through which God has reached out with his laws
> of morality.  Jewish Universalism is thus a reform movement, far from
> being fundamentalist in nature.

There is no reform here, just corruption.  If you want to be set free, 
study Moses books more carefully.  You'll find they point to a saviour, 
the Lord Jesus who can forgive you of all your sins.

Signed, the worst sinner, forgiven.
Technical Details
Message-ID: <rwhZc.15690$D7.736@news-server.bigpond.net.au>
Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!newshub.sdsu.edu!cyclone.bc.net!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!newsfeeds.ihug.co.nz!ihug.co.nz!usenet.net.nz!abnormal.com!lon-transit.news.telstra.net!lon-in.news.telstra.net!news.telstra.net!news-server.bigpond.net.au!53ab2750!not-for-mail
References: <c33c5677.0408312348.5f268273@posting.google.com>

Show Full Headers
Complete Article Headers
X-Google-Thread: f77fd,9573dc66a86fec05
X-Google-Thread: 10f18e,9573dc66a86fec05
X-Google-Thread: f4b1b,9573dc66a86fec05
X-Google-Thread: 1155f8,9573dc66a86fec05
X-Google-Thread: 1037b5,9573dc66a86fec05
X-Google-Attributes: gidf77fd,gid10f18e,gidf4b1b,gid1155f8,gid1037b5,public
X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit
Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!newshub.sdsu.edu!cyclone.bc.net!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!newsfeeds.ihug.co.nz!ihug.co.nz!usenet.net.nz!abnormal.com!lon-transit.news.telstra.net!lon-in.news.telstra.net!news.telstra.net!news-server.bigpond.net.au!53ab2750!not-for-mail
From: TyBreaker <tybreakerNO@SPAMhotmail.com>
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040616
X-Accept-Language: en-us, en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Newsgroups: canb.general,aus.religion,aus.religion.christian,aus.religion.judaism,aus.religion.islam
Subject: Re: Jewish Universalism
References: <c33c5677.0408312348.5f268273@posting.google.com>
In-Reply-To: <c33c5677.0408312348.5f268273@posting.google.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Lines: 35
Message-ID: <rwhZc.15690$D7.736@news-server.bigpond.net.au>
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2004 10:29:43 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.54.191.99
X-Complaints-To: abuse@bigpond.net.au
X-Trace: news-server.bigpond.net.au 1094034583 203.54.191.99 (Wed, 01 Sep 2004 20:29:43 EST)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2004 20:29:43 EST
Organization: BigPond Internet Services