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Re: Jewish Universalism

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From: TyBreaker
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 21:26
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Arthur Brain wrote:
> Prove it. Got any evidence?
> Prove it. Where's your evidence?
> Prove god has eyes.
> prove anybody chose to bring us the message of the messiah.
> Prove god "does".
> prove it. Where's the title deed?

Over hundreds of years, God sent a series of messengers called prophets, 
most to Israel, some even to the Gentiles.  The people who lived at the 
time knew how real God was as the prophets words always came true and 
God worked miracles to reinforce the messages they carried.

Then God came to live among us as Jesus.  He brought the same message. 
Again, the people who lived at the time knew how real He was as He fed 
the hungry in miraculous ways, healed the sick, raised the dead and 
exposed the hypcocrisy of the religious leaders.  He even appeared to 
hundreds after being raised from the dead to prove His messiahship, all 
very real to those at the time.

And now, thousands of years down the track, you assert that none of 
these things happened because you personally weren't there to witness it 
and have only writings and the testimony of others as proof.  Such proof 
you imply is insufficient.

Yet you believe, as we all do, that man travelled to the moon although 
you weren't on the flight.  You believe Australia was settled by the 
Brittish yet you weren't on the first fleet (or perhaps you believe it 
was settled by the Aboriginals and of course you could only believe that 
because you helped row their canoes).

The truth is you don't really want proof.  Well God has given you the 
right to choose for yourself if you will love Him or love yourself.  I 
can only recommend choosing God as He knows you better than yourself.
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