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2nd REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) change of the voting rules in the
ch.*-newsgroups

This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) to change of the present
voting rules applicable for the ch.*-Newsgroups.

This is not a Call for Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time. Procedural
details as below.

 RATIONALE:

The present voting rules in the ch.*-newsgroups impede the further
development of the ch.* usenet-news hierarchy. The hurdle for the creation
of a new group is set too high and allows a small
minority to overrule the will of a vast majority.

For example: the telecommunications group ch.comm could not be created due
to the fact that only 9 voted against it. This in spite of 104 voting "Yes".
The voting rules in other news hierarchies are less rigorous. Therefore it
appears to be equitable to simplify the procedure currently in place.

The proven rules of the de.*-newsgroups have been chosen as template. The
proposed change ensures both, the prevention of a flood of new groups nobody
needs as well as an easier creation of required groups/changes.


 CHANGE OF THE CHARTER CH.* ALL GROUPS:

The present rules are (position 5.3 of the FAQ):

[...]
  the new group will be created, if:
- At least two third of all valid votes
  are on "YES",
- at least 100 votes more on YES than on
  NO have been given.
[...]

The following passage will be reinserted in the charter of ch.* all groups :

[...]
To effectuate changes within the ch.*-usenet-hierarchy (i.e. creating new
groups, alteration of the charter) the traditional voting procedure
consisting of Requests for Discussions (RfD) and a Call for Votes (CfV) must
be carried out.

The proposal will be put in place, if:

- at least two thirds of all valid votes are on "YES",
- at least 60 votes on YES have been given.

END CHARTER: all groups


 PROCEDURE:

This is a Request for Discussion (RfD), not a Call for Votes (CfV). In this
phase of the process, any potential problems with the proposal should be
raised and resolved. The discussion period will last for a minimum of 21
days (starting from the date the first RFD is posted to ch.admin). Following
to this a Call For Votes (CFV) will be posted - in this case together with
the CfV proposing the creation of the group ch.comm. Please do not attempt
to vote until this happens.

The entire discussion of this proposal should be posted to ch.admin.


 DISTRIBUTION:

This RFD has will be posted to the following newsgroups:

ch.admin
ch.talk
ch.comp

As the new voting rules have an impact on all ch.* newsgroups, pointers
which announce this RfD are posted to the following groups:

ch.comp.networks
ch.comp.os.linux
ch.comp.os.ms-windows
ch.market
ch.market.comp
ch.market.jobs
ch.rec

Follow-up to ch.admin


 PROPONENTS (in alphabetical order):

Matthias Duebendorfer <ddo@sma.ch>
Urs Gfeller <urs.gfeller@freesurf.ch>
Andr� R. Mastel <andre@mastel.ch>
Mathieu von Rohr <wunderknabe@gmx.net>
Dominique Stern <startree@datacomm.ch>

Please note: The original version of this article was written by Mathieu von
Rohr. The Message-ID reads <7jjl54$be4$1@bw107zhb.bluewin.ch>. The English
RfD has been rewritten by Urs Gfeller, updated and slightly corrected by
Dominique Stern