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Article #21Re: FAQ: connecting to Internet?
From: Simon Poole
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 09:42
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 09:42
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rheiger@osnbe.Olivetti.ch (Richard H. E. Eiger) writes: .. : Every node charges the previous one on the communication path for the service : provided. This gets propagated back to the source of the call. This way we : don't introduce a huge overhead for billing centers. We don't need complex : and treaties among a big number of participants, but only rather simple : agreements between the sites directly connected. Hence there will also only : be very few international treaties between bordering sites. I don't particulary like the topology implications of your idea, and in the end, I don't see having bilateral (or agreements like CIX) between connectivity service providers as a big problem. CIX is -the- example that this works with a very, very small overhead (and after the agreement of ANS with CIX, you will see practically all US regionals joining CIX). : Ideally the sites can make enough money on the non connectivity services to : reduce the pure traffic (routing) costs close to zero. In my opinon the : connectivity is not potentially the most profitable service of the "Internet". One of the main problems of the "Internet" today is that it is -near- to impossible to earn money from "non-connectivity" services. This is less a technology problem (WAIS, for example has provisions for this), it's just practically impossible to find a service to provide that somebody else is not doing for free . : To accomodate for very small sites intermediate sites could have a few class : c networks with different subnetting schemes available (unless we could use : different subnet masks within the same network). It's not very likely that we will see "toaster"net with the current IP network layer, and it's pretty clear that ISO CLNS will not do the job either. For more information on the next generation IP (PIP, Nimrod, TUBA) etc. you can join the Big-Internet mailing list or at have a look at the archives of the list. Allocating class C addresses is not a problem from an address space point of view (only a very low percentage of the class C addresses have been allocated), it is a problem from the growth of the routing tables. The solutions to this are being implemented now (CIDR, C#), they just don't have enough "customer" acceptance (as everybody has noticed that has tried to squezze a class B address out of me in the last month) yet. -- CHUUG/EUnet Switzerland Simon Poole Zweierstrasse 35 Tel: +41 1 291 45 80 CH-8004 Zuerich Fax: +41 1 291 46 42 poole@eunet.ch
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Newsgroups: ch.network Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!mcsun!chsun!poole From: poole@chsun.chuug.ch (Simon Poole) Subject: Re: FAQ: connecting to Internet? Message-ID: <1992Jul31.094258.23223@chsun.chuug.ch> Organization: CHUUG Swiss Unix Systems Users Group X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3 References: <1992Jul31.073204.4333@osnbe.Olivetti.ch> Distribution: ch.network, ch.chuug Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 09:42:58 GMT Lines: 47