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Re: uverse and fake uverse

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From: Adam H. Kerman
Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2012 20:48
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dye <dye11@ppp-69-216-240-92.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net> wrote:
>Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>dye <dye11@ppp-69-216-240-92.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net> wrote:

>>>My parents have moved to a retirement community condo, and are
>>>having internets problems.

>>>They want POTS and internet service.  A guy came out and said the
>>>signal was too weak and 2 pairs would have to be used, and that
>>>can't be done.  When they told him about neighbors 2 doors down
>>>that have this exact setup, he told them his boss says they aren't
>>>doing that any more.

>>>They are coming out tomorrow afternoon to install something else,
>>>and of course my parents can't tell me what that is.  

>>>I am assuming what they ordered was POTS and uverse internet,
>>>probably because they were told DSL is not available (this is
>>>what they had at the old house, and they were happy with it).
>>>Now that are being hooked up to something else, my guess is
>>>that it will be DSL.

>>>My question is, which uverse were they being told won't work,
>>>the real or fake?  Do fake uverse boxes have provisions for
>>>2 sets of pairs?

>>>I made sure to have them call me when the installers arrive.
>>>If the uverse internet has better bang/buck than DSL, is tnere
>>>any thing I can say to the installers to make them do the 
>>>right thing?

>>I have POTS, with fake Uverse over that single pair, same as before
>>when I had DSL.

>Does the fake uverse (data only) have provisions for 2 copper pairs,
>like real uvers?

They made me buy a Motorola NVG510 (which had terrible reviews when
I looked it up). The jack labeled DSL Broadband has two pairs in it.
Of course I have no idea if the second pair would connect to anything
internally. I'm just using the first pair.

When I had DSL, it shared the single pair with POTS. That interfered
with one of my cordless phones, so AT&T installed a whole house filter
in the network interface box. On the inside wire, the first pair is filtered.
The unfiltered signal was moved to the previously unused second pair. They
installed a second jack and connected the second pair to the first pair
inside that second jack, to which the NVG510 is connected.

When AT&T forced me to switch to fake U-verse, I never saw them changing
anything on the drop from the pole in the alley or at the gray box, so
as far as I know, I'm sharing the same pair in the outside wire and no
changes to the inside wire were required.

They never demanded that I drop POTS and switch to VoIP via U-verse, which
I wouldn't have done.

Several blocks away they do have a full-size VLAD (alien space ship
landing platform) so they must have real U-verse over there.

I don't know what terminal adapter is used with real U-verse.
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