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Re: Porting, Google Voice, bandwidth.com

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From: Geoff Gass
Date: Sat, 01 Jun 2013 14:41
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Geoff Gass <glg@tanzenmb.com> wrote:
> tert in seattle <tert@ftupet.com> wrote:
>> smr wrote:
>>> On 5/30/2013 2:42 PM, Cydrome Leader wrote:
>>>
>>>> how often does this happen though (a fed style smackdown)?
>>>
>>> Technically daily, because it's only due to the Feds saying so that AT&T 
>>> lets us into their colos, provides last mile at tariff instead of at a 
>>> huge profit for them... we do ask the FCC to intervene if they're being 
>>> dicks a few times a year. It's more of a quiet regulatory enforcement 
>>> thing than it is what I think you're picturing, a huge, "Break up Ma 
>>> Bell!" type of government intervention.
>>
>> did all the exploded pieces of Ma Bell gravitate back together in the end? 
>
> not completely, verizon and centurylink own large pieces of territory and
> there's a couple of smaller ones like fairpoint around as well, but at&t is
> back to pretty damned big.

I forgot a major piece, post breakup, at&t still had the equipment
manufacturing and labs (western electric and bell labs).  that stuff is all
different companies like Alcatel-Lucent and Avaya now.
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From: Geoff Gass <glg@tanzenmb.com>
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Subject: Re: Porting, Google Voice, bandwidth.com
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