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Re: Usenet groups on MCS

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From: Karl Denninger
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 1995 00:00
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In article <chrisf-0108951405400001@chrisf.pr.mcs.net>,
Chris Farrell <chrisf@mcs.com> wrote:
>In article <3vlor2$mfh@Jupiter.mcs.net>, karl@Mcs.Net (Karl Denninger) wrote:
>
>
>> It is not a question of good taste.
>> 
>> It is a question of repositories of illegal (as in *stolen*) material in the
>> groups we do not carry, and defined-as-illegal material within the State of
>> Illinois in two (images of pedophilia and bestiality, to name them).
>> 
>> The amateur erotica groups *are* here, and are available, provided that you
>> submit proof of age to us in an acceptable form.  The stolen-girlie-scans
>> are not, nor are the stolen-software-from-Microsoft-and-others groups.  This
>> material is legal to carry and distribute to those who are of age in this
>> state.
>> 
>> This has nothing to do with taste, or morals.
>
>Thank you for the straight up answer. However, the question remains, why
>single out these groups when you above all, should be aware of copyright
>infringements in other groups. I can't imagine that I spend nearly a
>fraction of the time online that you do and I see violations everywhere.
>Pictures are posted in non-binary groups, software slips through on a
>regular basis, and textual copyright laws are CONSTANTLY violated in every
>group. (I am particularly aware of publishing violations simply because I
>read a lot and tend to remember what I've seen.) Are you in some fashion
>saying by your practice that software and pictorial copyright violations
>are more severe infringements than textual simply because they are more
>viseral?

We have studied this.

On average, far less than 1% of the postings in a given group are copyright
violations.  I note that quoting a post for the purpose of comment and reply
in the same fora where it was originally taken is *not* a violation of
copyright.

In those groups mentioned, far over *half* of the on-topic material posted
is a violation of copyright!  In the warez groups, for example, the number
is closer to 100%!

By definition a group entitled "gigabytes of copyright violations" bears
inspection to see if it really is, in fact, comprised of exactly that.

I note that the *entire reason* people want those groups is to get access to
*exactly* that stolen material.  For most groups in general that is *not*
the case; people are after free-form discussion or original works.

We respect people's property rights, including their right to control
distribution of their work, and will not knowingly and willfully distribute
stolen material.

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From: karl@Mcs.Net (Karl Denninger)
Subject: Re: Usenet groups on MCS
Date: 1995/08/01
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