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Article #46712Re: Usenet groups on MCS
From: Karl Denninger
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 1995 00:00
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 1995 00:00
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In article <thompson.1001.0021E5B8@robin.tezcat.com>, Bob Thompson <thompson@robin.tezcat.com> wrote: >In article <3vlor2$mfh@Jupiter.mcs.net> karl@Mcs.Net (Karl Denninger) writes: > > > >>In article <chrisf-3107951054290001@chrisf.pr.mcs.net>, >>Chris Farrell <chrisf@mcs.com> wrote: >>>In article <3vg8v2$rr8@Jupiter.mcs.net>, karl@Mcs.Net (Karl Denninger) wrote: >>> >>>> CompuServe does what we do -- they DO remove postings that in their >>>> opinion violate the law or their idea of good taste, after the fact and >>>> after notification. >>> > >>It is not a question of good taste. > >[much self-serving stuff deleted] > >>This has nothing to do with taste, or morals. > >>Karl Denninger (karl@MCS.Net)| > >Make up your mind, Karl. In one post you say that you, like Compu-Serve, DO >delete items that violate [someone's] idea of good taste. In the next one you >say it has nothing to do with good taste. > >Which is it? We remove postings after the fact that violate the law (ie: kiddie porn). We decline to carry books (newsgroups) which, in our opinion, are comprised of material which is likely (or is shown to be likely) to be either stolen or blatently illegal. We do not proactively censor material, practice prior restraint in any form, or look for material and groups to remove. If you could not legitimately post the material from our accounts, then there is no reason to believe that we should store it on our servers. The groups which are deliberately not here are as follows: alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.* (EXCEPT *.amateur, which *ARE* here) alt.binaries.pictures.tastless (Images illegal under Illinois law - bestiality) *warez* (Stolen commercial software) *pedophilia* (Images of child pornography) Some other groups are restricted to those who provide proof of age. If this was an issue of "Karl doesn't like dirty pictures", then the amateur groups would be missing, wouldn't they? But they aren't. Let's get off the "Christian morality" point -- it has nothing to do with why the groups are not carried. The reason is simple -- as an author and owner of intellectual property, this firm respects others rights to protect their intellectual property (including photographs) and refuses to knowingly and willfully participate in the systematic theft of same. -- -- Karl Denninger (karl@MCS.Net)| MCSNet - The Finest Internet Connectivity Modem: [+1 312 248-0900] | (shell, PPP, SLIP, leased) in Chicagoland Voice: [+1 312 248-8649] | 7 Chicagoland POPs, ISDN, 28.8, much more Fax: [+1 312 248-9865] | Email to "info@mcs.net" WWW: http://www.mcs.net ISDN - Get it here TODAY! | Home of Chicago's *Three STAR A* Clarinet feed!
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10d5fa,e3f342a29cfd73d X-Google-Attributes: gid10d5fa,public From: karl@Mcs.Net (Karl Denninger) Subject: Re: Usenet groups on MCS Date: 1995/08/01 Message-ID: <3vmbpe$crq@Jupiter.mcs.net> X-Deja-AN: 107340511 references: <3v6q6f$pcn@news1.mcs.net> <chrisf-3107951054290001@chrisf.pr.mcs.net> <3vlor2$mfh@Jupiter.mcs.net> <thompson.1001.0021E5B8@robin.tezcat.com> organization: MCSNet Ops, Chicago, IL newsgroups: chi.internet