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Article #46776Re: Usenet groups on MCS
From: Karl Denninger
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 00:00
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 00:00
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In article <3v92hp$8gr@sake.wwa.com>, Barry A Barr <barry@wwa.com> wrote: >>Yes, we started doing that when the "alt.barney.dinosaur.die.die.die.die" >>stuff started around here. That kind of newgroup/rmgroup war is highly >>destructive and serves no useful purpose, as well as possibly interfering >>with legitimate operations of the groups. So we whacked the newgroup >>procedure so as to not automatically honor them in areas other than the >>Big 7. > >Who are you to censor/decide what your users are able to view. If it >is out there, they should be able to make those decisions for >themselves. Are you asking us to put what amounts to a disk duplicator inside our front door and allow anyone who wishes to come in and run off copies of Word for Windows, or Procomm+, or Pagemaker, or any one of a number of other commercial packages? That's *exactly* what the "warez" groups are, and MCSNet does not support this kind of activity -- on the Internet or anywhere else. The newgroup procedure does not prevent groups from being created, with the exception of these. Instead, if waits until the server has determined that there are actual articles in the groups that presume to be created. Note that this *also* catches groups for which we never receive a "newgroup" command. In *alt* this is a frequent occurance (articles showing up without ever having received a newgroup command). As a result, we believe our system works better for the consumer. For those groups in the vote-taking set (comp, rec, sci, soc, talk, etc) we create the group automatically on receipt of a valid newgroup message from one of the trusted moderators of that position -- primarily tale@uunet.uu.net. -- -- Karl Denninger (karl@MCS.Net)| MCSNet - The Finest Internet Connectivity Modem: [+1 312 248-0900] | (shell, PPP, SLIP, leased) in Chicagoland Voice: [+1 312 248-8649] | 7 Chicagoland POPs, ISDN, 28.8, much more Fax: [+1 312 248-9865] | Email to "info@mcs.net" WWW: http://www.mcs.net ISDN - Get it here TODAY! | Home of Chicago's *Three STAR A* Clarinet feed!
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10d5fa,e3f342a29cfd73d X-Google-Attributes: gid10d5fa,public From: karl@Mcs.Net (Karl Denninger) Subject: Re: Usenet groups on MCS Date: 1995/07/28 Message-ID: <3vamij$ni@Jupiter.mcs.net> X-Deja-AN: 107101064 references: <3v6q6f$pcn@news1.mcs.net> <3v73r5$39i@sake.wwa.com> <3v77f2$5ia@Venus.mcs.com> <3v92hp$8gr@sake.wwa.com> organization: MCSNet Ops, Chicago, IL newsgroups: chi.internet