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Re: Usenet groups on MCS

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From: Karl Denninger
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 00:00
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In article <3v92hp$8gr@sake.wwa.com>, Barry A Barr <barry@wwa.com> wrote:
>>Yes, we started doing that when the "alt.barney.dinosaur.die.die.die.die"
>>stuff started around here.  That kind of newgroup/rmgroup war is highly
>>destructive and serves no useful purpose, as well as possibly interfering
>>with legitimate operations of the groups.  So we whacked the newgroup
>>procedure so as to not automatically honor them in areas other than the 
>>Big 7.
>
>Who are you to censor/decide what your users are able to view. If it
>is out there, they should be able to make those decisions for
>themselves.

Are you asking us to put what amounts to a disk duplicator inside our front
door and allow anyone who wishes to come in and run off copies of Word for
Windows, or Procomm+, or Pagemaker, or any one of a number of other
commercial packages?

That's *exactly* what the "warez" groups are, and MCSNet does not support
this kind of activity -- on the Internet or anywhere else.

The newgroup procedure does not prevent groups from being created, with the
exception of these.  Instead, if waits until the server has determined that
there are actual articles in the groups that presume to be created.

Note that this *also* catches groups for which we never receive a "newgroup"
command.  In *alt* this is a frequent occurance (articles showing up without
ever having received a newgroup command).  As a result, we believe our
system works better for the consumer.

For those groups in the vote-taking set (comp, rec, sci, soc, talk, etc) we
create the group automatically on receipt of a valid newgroup message from 
one of the trusted moderators of that position -- primarily tale@uunet.uu.net.

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From: karl@Mcs.Net (Karl Denninger)
Subject: Re: Usenet groups on MCS
Date: 1995/07/28
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