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Re: CIX issues - definition of a reseller as adopted by the CIX board

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From: Karl Denninger
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 1994 16:11
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In article <2udlb2$2r2@news.acns.nwu.edu>,
Albert Lunde <Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu> wrote:
>In article <2ua5ip$iie@mercury.mcs.com>, Karl Denninger <karl@MCS.COM> wrote:
>>In article <2u9gs3$enn@xochi.tezcat.com>,
>>Doctor Strange <strange@tezcat.com> wrote:
>>>Karl Denninger (karl@MCS.COM) wrote:
>>>
>>>: If you allow IP connections but do not allow them to leave your network (as
>>>: we used to do last year) you would be in the clear, as you are not
>>>: providing connectivity to the Internet in general over that mechanism.
>[...]
>>Actually, it doesn't work for Mosaic, unless you are just hitting your own
>>internal http servers.  The http service does not do "tunneling"; it
>>instead goes directly to the source, which requires direct IP connectivity.
>
>What if one did all http access via a caching proxy web server (like the
>CERN httpd)? Gets a bit confusing... I think this is one way to do a 
>ftp/gopher/web firewall as well as to just get a cache.
>
>(Studies suggest about a 30% hit rate on a web cache.)
>
>-- 
>    Albert Lunde                      Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu

If you did that as a device to get around membership then I bet its a
problem.  I can't speak for the board on this -- but I know that I personally 
would consider it to be a device to avoid payment -- and some people might
consider it fraud.

This is, I believe, one of the reasons that the board came out with the
statement that was as strong as it was -- and included "itself" (ie: the
organization doing the resale) in the traffic access control arena.  They
recognized that people would indeed try this kind of thing.

Again, I can't speak for them -- I'm not on the board.  But it appears
obvious that this was a consideration.

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Subject: Re: CIX issues - definition of a reseller as adopted by the CIX board
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