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Re: Ancient email hosts... (rambling)

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From: Karl Denninger
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1993 01:09
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In article <285c3i$kqd@genesis.mcs.com>,
La Monte H. Yarroll  <piggy@baqaqi.chi.il.us> wrote:
>Karl Denninger <karl@MCS.COM> writes:
>> MCSNet has been around in one form or another since '87. ...
>> 
>> MCSNet has been moving mail and news much longer than CLOUT has, and we have
>> original black-case Telebit Trailblazers (which I bought new) to
>> prove it :-). 
>
>MUCH longer?  A bit over a year.  The oldest document I currently have
>online indicates that the Clout Project had been running for at least
>a month by 7 November 1988.  We already had an Internet connection by
>December :-).

If you want to get technical MCSNet in it's "original" form as D&D Software
dates to '83.  That was a networked system, albiet not Unix-based.  Run out
of Detroit, and then Chicago later that year.  About a year passed before
the first Unix system showed up at D&D Software (later renamed Macro
Computer).

The first system that D&D Software had online was a Microport '286 (remember
that beast?)  40MB fixed disk, a whole two modems, yes, we were hot stuff.
1984 timeframe on that one.

I call MCSNet's incept as '87 because that was when I first started being
"serious" about the Net and doing news for others rather than just myself
and "internal" use.

>If we're going to be throwing around firsts and oldests, credit must
>definately be given to Randy Suess (and of course Ward Christiansen
><-sorry about the spelling...).  CBBS #1 went online about 15 years
>ago, and chinet came online about 10 years ago.

Given.

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From: karl@genesis.MCS.COM (Karl Denninger)
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Subject: Re: Ancient email hosts...  (rambling)
Date: 26 Sep 1993 20:09:01 -0500
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