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Article #730A reply Re: machine and chinet shutdown (VERY long)
From: Russell Rezaian
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1993 02:18
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1993 02:18
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The following consistsof my perspectives and opinions regarding some of the events that have taken place in the past few months. I cannot say that everything here is presented exactly as events occured, I can only say that this is how I have seen things. I am not trying to present a compete catalogue of events, that would be unreasonable. I may express personal opinions, and I would like to state at the outset that I am not speaking officially, merely as an individual caught up in these events. I mean no one any malice, and I do not intend to give insult to anyone named in the following text. I especially do not intend to offer any insult to Randy Suess, and I wish to state that at the outset as I suspect that I have managed to quite unwittingly present myself to him in a less than favourable light. My apologies for any typos and mispellings. In December of 1992 there was a small secuirty breach in the network of The University of Chicago which hosts the /usr/group/chicago E-Mail and News project machines. Th breach was not in a machine administered by the Computer Science dept, or the Computer services people. It was identified and closed by the staff at The U of C. Parts of the /etc/passwd file for clout.chi.il.us were found on one of the compromised machines. The password file was accessable via NIS, and could have been read by anyone. This is no longer the case. The password file has been run through crack, and all passwords that were broken have been changed. Furthermore, even administrative passwords that weren't cracked have been changed. The clout.chi.il.us machine was not compromised, however we carried out an immediate security audit on the machine, and closed all of the potential security holes we found. There weren't many of them, and they weren't very serious, but we felt a responsability to be paranoid. Matt Crawford, who has preformed security audits for other machines at The U of C has been very helpful in this, and I would like to publically express my thanks to him! A brief aside, the two machines clout.chi.il.us and machine.chi.il.us are quite different and separate. The clout.chi.il.us machine is runby the clout subgroups of the E-Mail SIG of /usr/group/chicago. It is administered by a group of volunteers who share responsability for the operation of the machine, and share the load of running a complex system providing mail services for several hundred sites in the Chicago area. The machine.chi.il.us machine is NOT run by the same project. It is, and has always been administered independantly from clout.chi.il.us. It is not part of the Clout project, and never has been. At one time, machine.chi.il.us shared resources with clout.chi.il.us, namely the /usr partition of the file system. This, and the fact that both machines were initially configure by La Monte Yarroll is the whole of their relation to each other. The machine.chi.il.us machine has been administered by Randy Suess ever since it was initially set up by La Monte Yarroll. When it was sharing a /usr/partition with clout.chi.il.us every interruption in the operation of clout (and these are a regular occurance with clout, it is constantly having more connections added to it, and the load it is subjected to is continually increasing) caused machine.chi.il.us to hang, or crash until clout.chi.il.us could be reset. This was not an acceptable state of affairs, and Randy Suess is to be commended for his heroic efforts to keep the system operating smoothly despite such awkward conditions. However, with unpredictable interruptions, and inadequate drive space machine.chi.il.us was loaded to the max simply providing one full news feed. In the late summer of 1992 Randy Suess made the News SIG (the functional group of under which machine.chi.il.us is supposed to be run) a very generous offer. A few months previously the News SIG had re-activated itself to address some problems that were affecting news distribution in the Chicago area. The News SIG wanted to improved news distribution in the area, the current machine.chi.il.us (at that time a Sun 3/50) was not able to accept higher loads. Randy Suess offered to allow the News SIG to use one of his computers with a high capacity multi-port serial board. Randy Suess would continue to act as sole administrator for the machine, and would offer to take time out of his schedule to even fix problems on site. The News SIG, while having a few reservations, opted to accept this very generous offer with a few conditions. Randy Suess configured a replacement computer at his home, set up all software on it, and in September of 1992 the switch was made. The News SIG's projects moved forward, and the main project to improve distribution of the chi groups went onward to considerable success. Oddly enough, surprisingly little use was made of the "new" machine.chi.il.us. Eventually, Randy Suess opened machine.chi.il.us up for a small number of news connections, the News SIG was never fully made aware of how far this went, though Randy Suess was operating based on some preliminary plans that had been made some time ago, but not acted on by the SIG itself. The issue of other connections to machine.chi.il.us is rather murky, and I certainly don't know all the details myself. I do know that some of the confusion that resulted from the lack of understanding contributed to a lot of the friction that has been going on now. A few weeks after the breach at The U of C a message was sent anonymously to root@clout.chi.il.us by someoone calling themseves a "cracker" telling us that there was a security hole on machine.chi.il.us and pointing out how to exploit that hole. The message also pointed out the security problems on clout that had alredy been fixed. This message is included at the end of my post for reference. It is filled with poorly executed corrections, and is generally a rather poor technical specimen of an anonymous E-Mail message. Incidentally, it is trivially easy to forge anonymous E-Mail. At the time I initally learned of the first security problems I didn't even think of machine.chi.il.us. It was not a machine with a large number of UUCP connections, a group of administrators or a particularly high profile. I have never been an admin for machine.chi.il.us, and quite frankly the idea that machine.chi.il.us would be involved in the security problems never really entered my mind. So, when I saw the "hacker" message, I was quite surprised. I IMMEDIATLY called Randy Suess as a courtesy to inform him that someone with severly limited credibility was claiming to have found a serious security hole on machine.chi.il.us. I was quite surprised by the response I got. Possibly I called Randy Suess at a bad time, but his response to me over the telephone was angry, abusive, and very disturbing. I will not go into details other than to say that Randy gave me the impression he thought I was acusing him of criminal incompetence, rather than extending him a courtesy (namely that of informing him that some un-named person was claiming to have compromised a system he administered, I did not trust the "hacker" and wished to check with the someone who I felt would be able to deal with things). Randy called me back a few minutes later to apologize for his angry response, and I apologized for anything on my part that could have been misconstrued by him as critical or acusatory. At this point I felt that Randy had been informed, and things were well on their way to swift and sane resolution. I was still quite disturbed by Randy's abusive phone call, but I do not know Randy very well, and that coupled with his prompt return call and our mutual apologies for misunderstanding lead me to believe that things were Okay. They weren't. The security breach on machine.chi.il.us was real, and it turned out to be quite annoying. Annother clout.chi.il.us admin who had become aware of the cracker and the hole went onto machine.chi.il.us and verified the existence of a hole, and closed it. This might not have been the most polite course of action, and might have been interpreted in a poor light ry Randy Suess, I personally do not believe any malice was intended, nor do I believe that any insult was intended. However, I can quite easily see where Randy Suess might have been insulted by this. I think that the political conditions that lead to this innocuous act being a potential insult are intlerable, and deeply regret even the possibly that I might in any way have contributed to them, even thought I am pretty sure I didn't. Some time later the News SIG had a regularly scheduled meeting. At this meeting it was decided that some of the arrangements origianlly made With Randy Suess were not acceptable, and that it was felt that the SIG could not risk offending the good nature of The University. For these, aand other reasons it was decided to thank Randy Suess for his help so far, and to search for a new computer to replace the one he was letting the News SIG use. Randy Suess no longer needed the use of machine.chi.il.us for himself, and he had given me the impression that he was no longer interested in participating in News SIG projects. He had at several times indicated that he wished to take his machine back. I considered the fact the he had not removed the computer already simply as annother example of Randy being generous and giving the group time to find a replacement. Somehow the decision of the News SIG to thank Randy for his help and look for new hardware was reported to Randy by someone who claims to be the "cracker" as having been a decision to throw Randy out for some imagined incomptence. This was not, and is not true. However incorrect the insult was made. At this point things exploded. The Executive bord of /usr/group/chicago was called in and started examing the situation. A board member, Ron Heiby, started an investigation of the whole affair, and those who are interested should consult him. Shortly before Ron Heiby had a chance to present his findings to the board yet one more factor came into play. At the time the new machine.chi.il.us was installed by Randy Suess, our hosts The University of Chicago informed us that there were planning to move the project computers to a different room at some time in the future. The time of the move was the Wednesday the day before Ron was to make his report to the board meeting. That Tuesday I talked to Dave Ihnat, I wass given the impression that Randy was planning to take his computer home before the move so as not to have to worry about it being damaged, or parts lost during the move. I assured Dave that Randy's physical access privaledges had not been revoked, and I consulted with other /usr/group/chicago board members about Randy taking hiiis equipemnt home. The consensus as I saw it was that it would be fine if Randy wanted to take his equipent home, after all it was his, and that we appreciated his letting us use it. Wednesday morning when I came in to move clout.chi.il.us I was rather surprised to see machine.chi.il.us still there. I immediatly called Randy, and to my surprise he said that he had not heard anything about removing the machine, I offered to carefully move it to the new room and set it up if possible until formal decisions were made. I moved clout.chi.il.us to the new room, and set it up. I sent out message to the clout admin group informing them of the new direct Telebit phone number. And if you need it, please contact one of the clout admins. I was not able to set up machine again howvere. In the old room machine.chi.il.us had been connected to the network with a 10base2 thin coax connection. In the new room the ethernet connection was to a multiport AUI hub. I was not going to go inside a machine that did not belong to me, and that was not familiar with, and that I had nothing to do with the administration of and make the hardware changes necessary to re-connect it. I simply placed it in the mew room, and carefully made sure that everything was neat and intact. I called Randy Suess to inform him of this, and as he had left by then left a message onhis answering machine to the effect that I had not reconnected machine owing to a problem with the ethernet, and that he could come down and either take it home if he wanted or leave it (and I thought it would be understood, change it to accept AUI) until the board of /usr/group/chicago made a formal decision the next night (Thursday). I believe this message was misinterpreted rather seriously by Randy Suess, as later that evening I was called and the following message was rbought to my atention In article <C27EBC.50H@chinet.chi.il.us> randy@chinet.chi.il.us (Randy Suess) writes: > > Well, the little ego boys have done their thing, and machine has > been shut down. (BTW, that is my personal equipment, and if I > don't see it REAL soon, some people are going to be very unhappy) I presume I am one of the "little ego boys," well, I feel I was justified, in all my actions, I feel I have acted in good faith, and I apologize if I made statements that were interpreted wrongly. If that makes me an "ego boy" so be it. > So, as of this moment, all outside email connections other than > to clout have been severed at chinet, and all outgoing news feeds > have been terminated. Those wanting email feeds, send email > to rrezaian@clout.chi.il.us. Those wanting news feeds, send > email to steve@simon.chi.il.us. I do not know why Randy is acting in a manner that seems to be intended to punish his friends for actions on my part or the parts of others that he might have thought (rightly, or not, it is irrelevant) slighted him. I find this incomprehensible, and that I think is symptomatic of the misunderstandings that abound. I obvously don't understand what Randy was trying to say or show here. I would like to say that anyone inconvienienced by this is welcome to get a mail connection to clout, and anyone not inconvienienced by this is ALSO welcome to get a mail connection to clout, that's why it's there. > Be sure you know how to kiss butt. I do not intend to dignify this with further comment. > >-- > I am created Shiva the Destroyer; Death, the shatterer of worlds! > Who is this dog meat who stands before me now? > That's the biz, sweetheart. >Randy Suess randy@chinet.chi.il.us For those who have not fallen asleep, or getten sick of my boring and mistake ridden prose, I include the text of the carcker message recieved on clout.chi.il.us. I include it without comment, as I do not feel it deservers being dignified by further comment. If the person really wished to help they would not have hidden behind anonymity. Begin included message: >From hacker Fri Jan 15 05:37:47 1993 >Return-Path: <hacker> >Received: by clout.chi.il.us (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) > id m0nCpCG-00047nC; Fri, 15 Jan 93 05:26 CST >Message-Id: <m0nCpCG-00047nC@clout.chi.il.us> >Date: Fri, 15 Jan 93 05:26 CST >From: hacker >To: root >Status: OR > >Hello. You're probobly wondering who i am. I am knoThe best i can tell you is i am a >hacker (or a cracker, as you may prefer). Anyways, i understand the importance >of the machines Clout.chi.il.us and machine.chi.il.us. I am sending you this >letter to let you know onthat on machine.chi.il.us, you have a gaping hole. > >By telnetting to port 25, you can fakemail from a user account (say, bin, as >it is a hihgh lveelvelevel account) and send it thru the decode alias. If you notice, >when you type "vrfy decode", it profduces the output: ><|/usr/bin/uudecode> > >Well, by sending a .rhosts file with + + as its content, you are capable of >rlogiiing ging in with little to not password. > >To fix this, go into /etc/alias.pag and put a # in front of the decode alias. >Do the asame for ypalias.'s alias. file. > >Like i said, i hiope you don't percive me as a threeat. I just know the importance >of these machines to the *.chi.il.us domains, as on one machine, i am a usedr. >I'm afraid that i cannot give you a means of contacting me, but if i come across >any further security holes, i will be more than happy to mail you immediately >about them. > >Oh, on clout.chi.il.us, you may want to change the /etc/hostname/l.le0 yto something a little less guessable, as with certain utilityies, one can grab your >copy of yppasswd. > >nAnyways, i hope yo udonu don't take this in the wrong way. I'm not thumbing my nose, >i just want to help. Permissions seem to be set correctly on the systems, but >you may want to set the ownership of many of your directorys to root, just for >securitys sake., especially in the /usr/* directorys, as they contain many bin >writable, but root owened igilrfiles, with chancgiving ona person a chance to create root owned >shells... > >Hacker End included message. I hope that this whole mess ends shortly, and ends with a minimum of further rancor. I am already quite distressed by the damage that has been done. Randy Suess, a person who has done quite a lot for the Chicago net community has been rather ill treated by the whole affair, and I for one am not happy about how I have been treated by things either. In fact I am downright angry. I suspect that Randy Suess is probably as angry as I am, he has every right to be. I don't think anyone, with the possible exception of the rather juvenile twit whose continued actions have only served to inflame the situation (I speak of none other than the "cracker") has reason to be anything other than angry. I only hope that time and maturity of spirit, if not common courtesy will win out. -- Russell Rezaian | rrezaian@austral.chi.il.us
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