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Article #771Re: clout closed
From: Karl Denninger
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1993 01:10
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1993 01:10
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In article <7270177653140@skeeve.mcs.anl.gov> rackow@skeeve.mcs.anl.gov (Gene Rackow) writes: >It sounds like your running SunOS 4.0.0 to be complaining like you are karl. >Yes, rcp.lockd is and has been a problem, but as to file servers, I have >been using a few Sun3/280's and then more recently moved to Sparc-2's. 4.0.3, 4.1.0, 4.1.1, and now 4.1.2. All with problems. On machines from Sparc 1s to 4/630 MPs (does anyone other than me think those extra processors are a joke until Solaris 2.1 is working well enough to move to?) rpc.lockd is the most horrid botch I have seen. Other vendors can get this right. Why does Sun consistently get it wrong? I have seen over <10> different versions and patches of this daemon (and its kernel support) in the last 3 years, with two coming a whole week or so apart. Is it <that> hard to do right? >As to network utilization, we used to have an average of 40% of bandwidth >on the backbone cable with peaks of 80-100% lasting for 10-20seconds. >Ever see a cabletron box with ALL the port lights on solid? Frequently. Did you have fun with the crappy VM implementation on 4.1.[01]? The one which allowed you to bring a 4/490 to tears with a single Sparcstation client running NFS? >If you are worried about NIS being a security hole, I suppose that don't >run it. You've come up with something better? NFS is also a security >hole, probably even bigger than NIS. Did you replace that as well? You can block NFS at a router easily. NIS isn't so easy. (Hint: blocking the portmapper isn't enough). SOME machines, such as the MIPS line, will refuse to allow a mount of a disk which doesn't answer a reverse-name query (which you can ALSO block effectively) >Name vendors that are doing the right things and have been shipping for >a few years. Unix has some security problems that need to be addressed, >but if it wasn't for tools like NFS, NIS/YP, sendmail, usenet, and others >we'd probably be sitting in front of card punches attempting to change >some line of JCL somewhere. > >--Gene > >PS: Some things can be done to tighten down security if you'd like. >Get the tcp_wrap package from cert.org, and the securelib package >from eecs.nwu.edu. These will tighten the security of the daemons >and the inet started processes by some amount. Basicly restricting them >to the networks you choose, and/or logging transactions. Does nothing, however, for UDP, which is where many of the security problems are. Sun isn't the worse vendor out there. But they do have a long way to go. -- Karl Denninger (karl@ddsw1.MCS.COM, <well-connected>!ddsw1!karl) Data Line: [+1 312 248-0900]
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f8d04,c9def037e86f2928 X-Google-Attributes: gidf8d04,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1993-01-19 08:39:40 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!gator!inland!ddsw1!karl Newsgroups: chi.mail Subject: Re: clout closed Message-ID: <C12txn.M59@ddsw1.mcs.com> From: karl@ddsw1.mcs.com (Karl Denninger) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1993 01:10:33 GMT References: <1993Jan13.175210.374@serveme.chi.il.us> <C0trCz.D8q@ddsw1.mcs.com> <7270177653140@skeeve.mcs.anl.gov> Distribution: chi Organization: MCSNet, Chicago, IL Lines: 58