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Article #22970Re: WCBS-News racist towards Irish?
From: Jack Campin
Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 12:16
Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 12:16
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IanG@tirnanog.demon.co.uk wrote: [ about subtitling TV programmes where the speakers don't have ruling-class accents ] > For something to be racist it must display a belief in the superiority > of one race over another. Subtitles for clarity don't quite fit this. The implicit assumption you're making is that there is a privileged dialect whose speakers have special rights. John Major's dialect is just as much effort for a working-class Glaswegian or Caribbean immigrant to understand as the converse. You don't see subtitles provided for *their* benefit; similarly, you don't see such subtitling in the US for the benefit of people who don't speak the elite forms of English that TV anchormen use. The "clarity" you're talking about is a service laid on for the benefit of a privileged minority. It's institutional discrimination on the basis of both race and class. -- -- Jack Campin -- Room 1.36, Department of Computing & Electrical Engineering, Mountbatten Building, Heriot-Watt University, Riccarton, Edinburgh EH14 4AS TEL: 031 449 5111 ext 4195 HOME: 031 556 5272 FAX: 031 451 3431 INTERNET: jack@cee.hw.ac.uk BITNET: via UKACRL BANG!net: via mcsun & uknet
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