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From: smr
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 18:22
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On 9/21/2011 12:39 PM, Kristian M Zoerhoff wrote: > On 2011-09-21, Adam H. Kerman<ahk@chinet.com> wrote: >> smr<me@shawnritchie.com> wrote: >>> On 9/20/2011 5:24 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote: >>>> smr<me@shawnritchie.com> wrote: >>>>> On 9/20/2011 12:21 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote: >> >>>>>> So you claim those times existed, without having known them, or knowing >>>>>> anybody who knew them. >> >>>>> There's this thing called "history", which allows people to learn about >>>>> the details and processes that existed in times other than their own. >> >>>> So you think history means misrepresentation and fiction. >> >>> So you're denying that incumbent presidents used to not campaign on >>> principle? >> >>> Okay. Enjoy living with some past that never happened. >> >> Shithead, here's that quote of yours you keep denying: >> >> We should go back to the old days where the incumbent didn't even >> campaign because it was considered beneath the office. You just >> voted on his record. >> >> You claimed campaigning was beneath the dignity of an incumbent. If the >> incumbent was popular and had a good record, that's what he ran on. >> >> Is there a way for you to be any more stupid? > > It is well documented that before 1824, the incumbent president did not > campaign, period. The lack of true popular vote was contributing factor, to > be sure, but it was just not done. Heck, even the opposing candidate tended > to avoid campaigning, letting the public come to them. Again, this was to > avoid sullying the grand office. > > I caught a fascinating exhibit on presedential campaigns at the Lincoln > Museum in Springfield a few years back. This might have been the part that > stuck with me the most. Sorry, Kristian, Adam says it never happened so... (note: later incumbents also refused to campaign, but after 1824 it did become possible). -- smr
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