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Mark Anderson <mea@nospambradnylion.com> wrote:

>They had an article about it two days ago and they didn't waste any 
>time.  The Tribune has gone paywall. . . . 

I don't care. Web site is still incompetent. Their original site all those
years ago was much better.

In article ahk@chinet.com says...
> 
> >They had an article about it two days ago and they didn't waste any 
> >time.  The Tribune has gone paywall. . . . 
> 
> I don't care. Web site is still incompetent. Their original site all those
> years ago was much better.

I'm not a web page critic and don't give two craps about any of their 
designs as long as they're half way usable which both Chicago papers 
have more or less been throughout their tenure in these intertubes.  My 
concern is lack of content and how quickly I can scan through both the 
Trib and the Sun Times and see absolutely nothing to click through on -- 
except for those cute girls who keep staring back at me so 
seductively...

Really.  If the Trib wants to charge for content they need to produce 
some first.  Now that I think of it, most of the time I click through an 
article only to read what the mouthbreathers have to drool about in the 
comment section -- much like watching the Jerry Springer show.  Now I 
can't even read those -- even if I pay for a god damned subscription 
because they require a Facebook account.

Mark Anderson <mea@nospambradnylion.com> wrote:
>ahk@chinet.com says...
 
>>>They had an article about it two days ago and they didn't waste any 
>>>time.  The Tribune has gone paywall. . . . 

>>I don't care. Web site is still incompetent. Their original site all those
>>years ago was much better.

>I'm not a web page critic and don't give two craps about any of their 
>designs as long as they're half way usable which both Chicago papers 
>have more or less been throughout their tenure in these intertubes.

Well, I do. If I can't find the information I'm looking for readily,
I won't use it.

>My concern is lack of content and how quickly I can scan through both the
>Trib and the Sun Times and see absolutely nothing to click through on --
>except for those cute girls who keep staring back at me so seductively...

>Really.  If the Trib wants to charge for content they need to produce 
>some first.  Now that I think of it, most of the time I click through an 
>article only to read what the mouthbreathers have to drool about in the 
>comment section -- much like watching the Jerry Springer show.  Now I 
>can't even read those -- even if I pay for a god damned subscription 
>because they require a Facebook account.

As I recall, the Tribune's original Web site had an annoying registration
scheme as well.

Mark Anderson <mea@nospambradnylion.com> wrote:
> Now I 
> can't even read those -- even if I pay for a god damned subscription 
> because they require a Facebook account.

anyone assuming that anderson is an idiot would be correct.  there is no
reuirement that one have a facebook account.  facebook login is offered as a
convenience to those who want to use it (along with google, yahoo, twitter,
aol and myspace), or one can sign up for a trib only account.  one can also
link one's subscription to their account as well.

Mark Anderson <mea@nospambradnylion.com> wrote:
> They had an article about it two days ago and they didn't waste any 
> time.  The Tribune has gone paywall.

no, they haven't.  they've gone registration.  they're warning they may go
paywall in the future.

In article glg@tanzenmb.com says...
> > Now I 
> > can't even read those -- even if I pay for a god damned subscription 
> > because they require a Facebook account.
> 
> anyone assuming that anderson is an idiot would be correct.  there is no
> reuirement that one have a facebook account.  facebook login is offered as a
> convenience to those who want to use it (along with google, yahoo, twitter,
> aol and myspace), or one can sign up for a trib only account.  one can also
> link one's subscription to their account as well.

From the Tribune site at the end of what should be another mouthbreather 
free for all for the article entitled, "Obama to tour site of worst-ever 
Colorado wildfire"

----
The Tribune is using Facebook comments on stories. To post a comment, 
log into Facebook and then add your comment. To report spam or abuse, 
click the "X" in the upper right corner of the comment box. In certain 
circumstances, we will take down entire comment boards. Our commenting 
guidelines can be found here �.
----

I've been registered with the Trib since they started registrations.  

Now who's the idiot again?

In article glg@tanzenmb.com says...
> > They had an article about it two days ago and they didn't waste any 
> > time.  The Tribune has gone paywall.
> 
> no, they haven't.  they've gone registration.  they're warning they may go
> paywall in the future.

Then you're seeing a different site than me.  I do click through the 
Trib a lot so perhaps they're diverting heavier users already over some 
limit to their paywall site now.  

I'd clear my cache to test this out buy I forgot most of the passwords 
and/or usernames on the other sites I go to so it isn't worth the 
bother.

Geoff Gass <glg@tanzenmb.com> wrote:
>Mark Anderson <mea@nospambradnylion.com> wrote:

>>They had an article about it two days ago and they didn't waste any 
>>time.  The Tribune has gone paywall.

>no, they haven't.  they've gone registration.  they're warning they may go
>paywall in the future.

Each of the two earlier versions of the Web site required registration for
much of the site as well.

I haven't looked, but I assume Trib did the same thing as last time,
requiring new credentials for the new version of the site, so users who
were already registered had to do so again.

Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
> Geoff Gass <glg@tanzenmb.com> wrote:
>>Mark Anderson <mea@nospambradnylion.com> wrote:
>
>>>They had an article about it two days ago and they didn't waste any 
>>>time.  The Tribune has gone paywall.
>
>>no, they haven't.  they've gone registration.  they're warning they may go
>>paywall in the future.
>
> Each of the two earlier versions of the Web site required registration for
> much of the site as well.
>
> I haven't looked, but I assume Trib did the same thing as last time,
> requiring new credentials for the new version of the site, so users who
> were already registered had to do so again.

my throwaway yahoo account is still working via the yahoo login thingie,
that was working before.

In article mea@nospambradnylion.com says...
> From the Tribune site at the end of what should be another mouthbreather 
> free for all for the article entitled, "Obama to tour site of worst-ever 
> Colorado wildfire"
> 
> ----
> The Tribune is using Facebook comments on stories. To post a comment, 
> log into Facebook and then add your comment. To report spam or abuse, 
> click the "X" in the upper right corner of the comment box. In certain 
> circumstances, we will take down entire comment boards. Our commenting 
> guidelines can be found here �.
> ----

Hate to follow up my own post but I discovered something.  For awhile 
I've had facebook.com as an SOA on my DNS server which means all 
fecebook.com requests got bounced to one of my servers because I wanted 
nothing to do with that outfit.  This works well and you'd be amazed at 
how many doo hickeys phone home for god knows what to facebook.com 
whenever you download a site.

Anyway, I was browsing the Trib on my laptop which uses a public DNS 
server and I saw the comments and it looks like some fancy scripting 
originating from the real facebook.com.  The comments do get displayed.  
I thought the Trib was using facebook for only user validation -- not to 
manage and serve comments which sometimes can be the most entertaining 
and insightful aspect of an online newspaper if done right.  Facebook 
now pwns the Tribune corporation.