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Re: our mail is bouncing

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From: Pythagoras Watson
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 00:00
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According to Tyler Yip - UnixWeenie(tm) <davros@ecst.csuchico.edu>:
:In article <76hbf3$p4e$1@hubble.csuchico.edu>,
:Pythagoras Watson <py@ecst.csuchico.edu> wrote:
:>Not that anything is likely to change in the near future, but I would be
:>curious about reasons as to why qmail should be replaced with sendmail.
:>What exactly do you miss about sendmail?

:Personal peeves:
:Qmail, or at least the installation here, doesn't put our real names in
:our mail.  more and more people think my name is dave.

Yeah, I've disliked this from the start.  The default qmail has basically
no header rewriting capabilities.  This makes it simpler and faster at the
expense of nice features like this one.  There is a patch to do envelope
header rewriting, but nothing that will change the headers in the body.

:Qmail, or at least the installation here, doesn't understand timestamps.
:All our mail goes out GMT, and it's not consistant.  Initiating host's
:Qmail puts in a -0000 offset, but the Qmail handling the initial Received
:header puts in a -0800 offset, and for locally delivered mail it delivers
:with a -0000 offset, resulting in our new mail being mailformed.  It's to
:the point that I have to look at procmail logs in order to find out when
:my mail actually arrived.

The default qmail does everything in GMT.  We applied a patch that caused
all the various daemons to output local time.  However, sometime later
parts were recompiled without the patch, so it is now inconsistent.

Qmail was installed in the hopes that it would be faster (and as side
benefits would be more secure and not allow relaying).  As it turns out,
given the old HP hardware we run it on, the way we need to configure qmail,
and the nature of the mail we deal with, qmail is almost never faster and
is often significantly slower than sendmail.  As for security and relaying,
sendmail's was generally adequate for our uses, and the latest sendmail
turns relaying off by default.

Given this and several other "problems" I have with qmail, why haven't we
gone back to sendmail? Well, because we have a system that works for most
of our users, going back would take a not-small amount of time, and I was
hoping Postfix would offer a nice middle ground (it doesn't look like it so
far though).  Maybe the future will see some changes in this area.

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From: py@ecst.csuchico.edu (Pythagoras Watson)
Subject: Re: our mail is bouncing
Date: 1999/01/01
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