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Article #51Re: our mail is bouncing
From: Pythagoras Watson
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 00:00
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 00:00
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According to Tyler Yip - UnixWeenie(tm) <davros@ecst.csuchico.edu>: :In article <76hbf3$p4e$1@hubble.csuchico.edu>, :Pythagoras Watson <py@ecst.csuchico.edu> wrote: :>Not that anything is likely to change in the near future, but I would be :>curious about reasons as to why qmail should be replaced with sendmail. :>What exactly do you miss about sendmail? :Personal peeves: :Qmail, or at least the installation here, doesn't put our real names in :our mail. more and more people think my name is dave. Yeah, I've disliked this from the start. The default qmail has basically no header rewriting capabilities. This makes it simpler and faster at the expense of nice features like this one. There is a patch to do envelope header rewriting, but nothing that will change the headers in the body. :Qmail, or at least the installation here, doesn't understand timestamps. :All our mail goes out GMT, and it's not consistant. Initiating host's :Qmail puts in a -0000 offset, but the Qmail handling the initial Received :header puts in a -0800 offset, and for locally delivered mail it delivers :with a -0000 offset, resulting in our new mail being mailformed. It's to :the point that I have to look at procmail logs in order to find out when :my mail actually arrived. The default qmail does everything in GMT. We applied a patch that caused all the various daemons to output local time. However, sometime later parts were recompiled without the patch, so it is now inconsistent. Qmail was installed in the hopes that it would be faster (and as side benefits would be more secure and not allow relaying). As it turns out, given the old HP hardware we run it on, the way we need to configure qmail, and the nature of the mail we deal with, qmail is almost never faster and is often significantly slower than sendmail. As for security and relaying, sendmail's was generally adequate for our uses, and the latest sendmail turns relaying off by default. Given this and several other "problems" I have with qmail, why haven't we gone back to sendmail? Well, because we have a system that works for most of our users, going back would take a not-small amount of time, and I was hoping Postfix would offer a nice middle ground (it doesn't look like it so far though). Maybe the future will see some changes in this area. -- Py -- 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105... Pythagoras Watson -- "Live long and may all your kernels pop." = py@ecst.csuchico.edu === http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~py/ =
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10fe8a,40bf8ce51bdba5e8 X-Google-Attributes: gid10fe8a,public From: py@ecst.csuchico.edu (Pythagoras Watson) Subject: Re: our mail is bouncing Date: 1999/01/01 Message-ID: <76hiln$pc3$1@hubble.csuchico.edu> X-Deja-AN: 427645441 Distribution: ecst References: <76fct9$lff$1@hubble.csuchico.edu> <76hbf3$p4e$1@hubble.csuchico.edu> <76hei6$p6v$1@hubble.csuchico.edu> Organization: California State University, Chico Newsgroups: chico.ect.help