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As quoted from <4na8nl$89@madeline.INS.CWRU.Edu> by trier@odin.INS.CWRU.Edu (Stephen C. Trier):

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> I'm getting sick and tired of make-money-fast schemes and other off-topic
> drivel in what used to be useful and friendly Cleveland-area newsgroups.
> There's zilch about Cleveland; all the legitimate users are being flooded
> out by the spammers.

Stephen, 
I am afraid thare is nothign except kill-files or retro-mod. 
Even if you will stop all leaks, it will not prevent someone
on netcom who will find dead and empty cle.general from crossposting 
to it. Remeber when I used to post to Freenet newsgroups from 
my system, and you were not leaking them at all ?
All I nedded was name of the newsgroup and one newsgroup 
reaching both systems - I was usually piggybacking it on some 
totally benign group like control :-) .



> 
> Much of this is caused by indiscriminate forwarding of cle.* by news
> servers worldwide.  Even the newsadmins most likely have no clue what
> the hierarchy is or why they're carrying it.
> 

Sorry, but I have to disagree. The reason is that once other systems 
know of existence of such newsgroup, indiscriminate posts with 
dozens of newsgroups are made. There is discussion about limiting 
number of crossposts; some newsreaders are doing it. Still, news as transport 
should not replace user interface and education. 

> How would folks feel about closing off cle.* from international distribution?
> We can ask newsadmins to stop forwarding it outside of the northeast Ohio
> area.  By looking at Path: lines, we can figure out who's leaking it and
> persuade them to stop.
> 

I am afraid it does nothign to alleviate problem.. 

> Such a step would let us reclaim cle.* for Clevelanders.
> 
Maybe we will ask Dick Depew to explain how retroactive moderation works ? 

> Opinions?
> 
>               Stephen
> 
> -- 
> Stephen Trier         "All coordination will be done electronically over the
> trier@ins.cwru.edu    Internet, a futuristic communications network of networks
> KG8IH                 that, we are told, will one day revolutionize something
> 		      or other."      - mini-AIR #1996-02



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