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Re: Proposal: stop the leaks

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From: Mark W. Schumann
Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 00:00
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In article <8Y8ox47UlFqP090yn@mome.apk.net>,
March Hare <sysop@mome.apk.net> wrote:
>In article <4nnmfk$2l8@junior.wariat.org>,
>catfood@junior.wariat.org (Mark W. Schumann) wrote:
>>In article <bEnnx47UlVHd090yn@mome.apk.net>,
>>March Hare <sysop@mome.apk.net> wrote:
>>>I agree with most of what you said, but I would like to point out that it is
>>>common practice to also cancel articles posted to 20 groups or more.
>>
>>I believe that an article posted separately to 20 newsgroups (20 posts)
>>has a BI of 20, which qualifies for spam cancellation under standard
>>Big 7 practice.
>
>That should have read "crossposted".  INT(SQR(20)) = 4.  Under BI rules,
>it still gets carried to 20 groups, usually with 15 of them being
>inappropriate and 5 of them I read, with my luck.

And you would see it just once with... oh, wait a minute...

>>Zbig is right about this.  If your newsreader cannot handle crossposts,
>>get a better newsreader.
>
>The reader is fine.  It is UUPC that creates the separate files.  Doesn't
>really matter, anyhow.  See my other long-winded post about how spam
>begets spam, plus the fact that if it were appropriately posted I probably
>wouldn't see it anyhow.

Well, yeah, but the point is that /your/ host got one copy of the
article and turned it into <n> copies, and it is within your power
to make it stop doing that.  It doesn't become "spam" until you make
it so.  The massively crossposted article is just "velveeta" until
then, and velveeta is a lot easier to manage.

BTW, check your facts on UUPC.  I used that here for /years/ and am
quite certain that UUPC hands one and only one copy of a crossposted
article to the news spool, and it is SNEWS's unbatcher (if you're
using that) that makes the <n> copies.  I wanted to do what you
seem to be considering now, which is making an SNEWS database that
implements newsgroups as a bag of pointers into that big database,
but I found it a lot easier and cooler to just start running Linux.  :-)

-- 
Mark W. Schumann  | ObCDA: Rep. Martin Hoke is a poopy-head.
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From: catfood@junior.wariat.org (Mark W. Schumann)
Subject: Re: Proposal: stop the leaks
Date: 1996/05/23
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