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Article #1052Re: Can anaything be done about "#1 BULK EMAIL LOADER IN THE COUNTRY" ???
From: Stan Brown
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 00:00
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 00:00
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Skrev wyang@freenet.columbus.oh.us (William Yang) i brevet <54qeno$kse@names.freenet.columbus.oh.us>: >In article <MPG.cd9b3e65eef01939899d8@news.nacs.net>, >Stan Brown <stbrown@nacs.net> wrote: > >> The problem is that junk faxes (a) tie up equipment so that it can't be >> used and (b) cost the _recipient_ money for supplies. Junk emails are >> certainly annoying, and I yield to no one in my hatred of them, but we >> must realize that (barring mail-bombing) they do not constitute a denial >> of service. As for costing the recipient, this one used to be easier to >> demonstrate; but now that even the big ISPs are going with flat-rate >> pricing it's harder to argue. > >Uhm, I really disagree here. I run a large site (20,000 or so users), [...] >All large sites have a serious problem with junk e-mail, because my >project is not uncommon amongst large sites in these kinds of >problems. I still do not understand why my site should be subsidizing >commercial activity outside of our service area, at the expense of our >actual mission. Bill raises an excellent point. I've been looking at this from the point of view of the individual account holder (which I am). It's different when one considers the cumulative effect of junk mails on a large site (or even a small one, since I imagine they'd be proportionally the same). I believe "denial of service", which is what Bill was describing, is already a civil tort. But I'm not a lawyer either, so I don't know. Again, a reminder: the legal aspects are currently being discussed on misc.legal.moderated. (posted and emailed) -- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Cleveland, Ohio USA email: stbrown@nacs.net Web: http://www.nacs.net/~stbrown/
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 108bc6,8da732027c01d658 X-Google-Attributes: gid108bc6,public X-Google-Thread: f95f9,f7fa82ecb68a73aa,start X-Google-Attributes: gidf95f9,public From: stbrown@nacs.net (Stan Brown) Subject: Re: Can anaything be done about "#1 BULK EMAIL LOADER IN THE COUNTRY" ??? Date: 1996/10/25 Message-ID: <MPG.cdb526262d42f419899e5@news.nacs.net> X-Deja-AN: 192316960 references: <326DADC6.2E78@ingress.com> <326E1C10.588E@bitbucket.com> <54ln21$sjj@tracy.nacs.net> <MPG.cd9b3e65eef01939899d8@news.nacs.net> <54qeno$kse@names.freenet.columbus.oh.us> organization: Oak Road Systems reply-to: stbrown@nacs.net newsgroups: cle.general,cmh.general