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dionisio@infinet.com wrote:
: Jamie (jamie@multiverse.com) said:

: }The total time on-disk at site A would be about a second.

: One slight problem. There are "recovery experts" that can snatch the bits 
: off of a disk, even if it's been formatted and each bit individually 
: re-written over 10 times.

: The data never truely "becomes one with the bit bucket", it merely 
: becomes more expensive to access.

Jamie failed to point out that from host a to b any intermediate
machines can watch the packets go by and reassemble them at
ease.. this means that passwords, mail, file/data, and in fact
anything on the internet is insecure unless encrypted. unfortunately,
/bin/login is insecure in this way because the passwords go over the
net in plain text.. if sites c, d, e, f, g, h, i, .. y or z between
sites a and b have been comprimised, sites a or b are as good as
compromised too.

If i cant break into sin, but can get Jamie's gateway, I own his
entire network. I can watch everything coming in and out of sin and
Jamie would have no idea from examining sin's security, I may not even
be on that machine, but i have login/passwds, possibly root's passwd,
mail, etc just by packet sniffing.. the only answer to this form of
hacking is to use deslogin and ssh or similar programs.. secure id
comes to mind..

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