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Just curious... are you for the medical use of marijuana as well?

john wrote:
> 
> I've made this small note, warning of debt induced war and its causes, 10's
> of years in the future as off shore economy challenges democratic nations.
> I made it from research after dreams dreamt some years ago, especially after
>  a dream that had:- a 3man military team doing a mission cutting electronic
>  money cables by the side of rail lines + robots terrorising military
>  listening stations.
> I distributed it here in paper form at first:-
> Danger-robotics could destroy democracy for the unemployable.
> Unions & democracy slow the development of automation in order to
> maintain effective employment training for adaptation to automation
> for everyone. But eventually remote controlled robotics may
> develop without this slowing in space and at sea.
> -Space-lawless, tactless, rent & mortgage less, wide access
> possibilities, micro gravity & solar watts, corrosion & bug less.
> -Robots-able to work where man has difficulty doing work and still
> evolving with the discoveries of physics.
> -Cabled money-replacing cash with credit card sort and going
> through all on one metropolitan ring cables that are easy to cut.
>  The owners of these new robots in satellites and automated island
> ships, may eventually cut the cables of our cabled money to stop
> our democracy or our unemployed interfering with their access to
> (But they always have worst competitors who are more dictator like
> so you will have to choose who of the owners your work in total helps.)
> earth resources. Trouble makers may become slaves in the landfills
> gathering shiny metal with robot slave drivers. All bit like the
> American government shutdown of 1995 that was like a bank
> repossessing because of government default on repayment of nat' debt.
>        how can we be safe?
> -Be aware of incidents of at sea/space and discuss this with
> others. (while average pay grows & robots smarter/cheaper on goes)
> -Develop our careers for care and assessment jobs that will always
> be needed to guide machines to human interest.
> -Learn to feed off of nature efficiently in an emergency even on
> the move to avoid capture. Learning to eat weeds/trees and ecology
> Is probably the majorities best backup as doubt of the future grows
> with robotics. There is still much room yet to use calories even
> more efficiently for survival emergency method research.
> -Avoid crime as it leads too violent criminals and authorities.
> Victors & losers of the future maybe are sending warnings into our
> dreams, so that you might decipher a message too.
> 
>    ELABORATION ON THIS:-
> Democracy will probably vote for itself to borrow and borrow over a long
> time to cope with the uncompetive needs of a large part of the voters.
> Business doesn't down size at the earliest opportunity of automation, but
> instead explores the potential of its employees as long as things are
> predictable economically and steady, plus rules ask them to be considerate.
> But if the economy has inflation due to borrowing by the government, things
> become less predictable for numerous reasons.
> When a cause of market sudden fall happens, emergency procedure occurs and
> firms are sold to downsizing specialists who like repo' firms ruthlessly
> grab what they can still of value.
> The security of contracts with employees becomes void more or less
> immediately like a shutdown for reorganisation.
> The war mentioned of the rich off shore lot against democracy where
> electronic money cables are cut on the ground globally, is a larger version
> of this downsizing process.
> 
>   PERSONALITIES OF THE MOST HIGH?
> Who are the bankers in charge of national banks like the bank of England,
> which is a private organisation and what part do Swiss banks personalities
> play in these national banks?
> Over the years ahead you will decide what sort of people to support with the
> total of your lives work.
> They could be terrorists trying to keep other mad types at bay in the gutter.
> They could be democracy against terrorists and other life abuses and abusers.
> They could be some off shore enterprise looking for security from both debt
> ridden democracy or terrorists who could take up off shore power too.
> This ethical offshore group would also aim to take the benefits of
> planet life to its safest future as gene and age problems grow medically
> as its investors would be most likely be its first benefactors medically.
> Eventually the earth must be taken from the classes of consistent violence
> as it seems improbable that they could handle the ever growing power of tech'
> power responsibly.(Though researching dyslexia's cause may help with talent
> inequality and medicine is growing in a big way as an employer)
> When will it happen and how depends on how it is resisted by those who could
> resist the possibility.
> Already power lines are being incorporated with trunk communication lines
> that also carry the bulk of currency.
> Already robots evolve in all types of environment with surprising
> frightening possible uses.
> 
>    SOME MORE DETAILED POSSIBILITIES>
> I'm an electronics repair specialist and being in the trade I feel I
> understand how robots will come to be in our lives.
> The principal milestone to watch for is that robots in car factories will
> be able to make different models of car from the same production line and
> be able to make prototypes off of it too.
> There after the factory mainframes which control the robots will take
> about 10 years to be cheap & small enough for anything involving labour.
> Robots being key change to the new military and economy.
> We've seen countries like Haiti collapse economically, but there's allot more
> obvious warning than the 4 minute one we used to listen for.
> I imagine another scenario, where society is maintained by a surplus of
> workers, some willing to volunteer even.
> The signs of government borrowing and economic decline having sneaked
> slowly into everyday life, with many being patched over with new security
> gadgets.
> Then a mixture of events causes markets to crash as they have before and
> as society is no longer the bread maker of the economy by this time, repo'
> organisations are called in with no warning to recycle the government
> maintained infrastructure of the masses.
> By cutting the cables of electronic money, that run along the railways
> and leaving the rich in their well guarded homes with satellite links
> for their electronic money.
> Plus guards are used to protect pipelines and hunt any organised refugees
> like in chetchnia and with the Kurds.
> Robotics is being used militarily by the Israeli's in the form of forward
> observers and drones.
> I expect by now surgery performing robots is becoming common to surgical
> theatres as well as war theatres as in 1989 I saw a prototype on TV.
> Nano robots are being researched but bugs and small remote controlled
> devices like the toy cars are probably used by security forces.
> Intelligent moving mines at sea are available for use, by most hi-tech
> countries and some say some already sit on the sea bed awaiting orders.
> The US have smart bombs that can see the difference between a tank and a tent
> for themselves.
> The British have controlled explosion robots.
> That have an arm, on a pair of caterpillar tracks and managed by a man in
> another van.
> It is armed with a rifle and a pile of explosive.
> I saw it on the news, shoot a car window, then enter the car through the hole,
> then blow up the car and the car bomb, whilst it was still inside.
> The car collapsed like a party balloon, but the robot looked ungrazed even.
> Needless to say this was northern Ireland.
> 
> 
>   SURVIVAL ON THE RUN (see misc.survivalism + alt.survival)
> Anyway the question is how best to survive with guards hunting every sign
> of organised refugees?
> Even if you are one of the Rich who could survive almost unscaved, you
> still may have old acquaintances and distant relatives with the problem
> of survival on the run.
> I expect that a repossession organisation would wish to prevent disease
> and the old and young may be given preventative medical treatment but
> the cost to them may be being impounded and given work recycling
> rubbish from landfills with little social segregation from hard criminals.
> Really legalised slavery could be the norm for the masses.
> Assuming vast areas of the land mass wouldn't be required as most of the
> masses would be impounded and the bigger than ever need to grow more flora &
> forna for bio-diversity, then there may be plenty of hiding places for
> refugees on the move.
> As medicine and illness causes grow from old age and pollution, more
> experimenting on apes may happen.
> The sooner these apes are treated better or not experimented on because of
> alternative experimenting methods developed, the more chance low class
> people and refugees will have of also not being experimented on.
> In Iraq the unemployable are watched to guard the oil pipeline and
> experimented on with the residue of the smart bio/chem/nuke weapons.
> Making the abductions of the X-files look small feed, though the conspiracy
> matches the way the gulf war syndromes sufferers have been turned away
> so soon after the war and seems real today.
> For some couples avoiding capture the ability to suck juice from river
> reeds and use a canoe as both tent and sledge, is the sort of skills
> I think they would need.
> Firing guns would attract unwanted company and larger groups would be
> easier seen.
> With modern biology survival at this level of technology can be better
> than ever in recorded history, but research is needed.
> 
>   FICTIONAL MEDIA ON THESE IDEAS
> I have also noted relevant productions Bladerunner, Neuromancer, space above
> & beyond, Independence day, and numerous 1984 productions such as Repoman
> & Terminator in film & music such as Eliminator by ZZtop.
> Tricky, White Zombie, massive attack and possibly M people seem to have
> similar ideas in recent music.
> 
>   MAYBE ITS HAPPENED BEFORE?
> In archaeology 12.5 thousand year pyramids as oppose to about 5 is being
> accepted and a possible link to the end of a big ice age that covered
> northern Europe as an example of past global warming from mans business.
> Maybe it has happened before and recycling robots ate the evidence to
> protect the earth 12 thousand years ago after the big global warm-up.
> With all the other dangerous technologies like nuclear warheads its surprising
> that we have never built shelters as strong as the pyramids still.
> It seems we are waiting to get out to space with its infinite resources
> and space.
> The 4 problems on the road to space:-
> Who to trust with the growing power of technology.(i.e. medicine.)
> Who to employ with redundancy catching out people so often.(i.e. robots.)
> How to protect the earth as the only known reliable arc of life, whilst
> requiring space for jobs from growth.(i.e. costly outer space access.)
> How to quell peoples aggressive drive in all sorts of competion until
> we can choose our own way in space entirely individually.(i.e. mating race)
> 
>   FEEDBACK     FEEDBACK   FEEDBACK?
> Anybody is welcome to reply directly for more or to suggest references.
> People have written e-mails, both praising with agreement or flaming for
> bandwidth usage.
> My English isn't a high standard, so any suggestions on this 3 * A4 layout
> could be useful, my e-mail address is john@nine7.demon.co.uk
> 
> It never will    *(The labourers razed the barn, then ran away, so began the
> It never would   *steam age. The yeomanry with swords took on the crowd of
> It never did     *pitchfork holders and arrested the ring leaders with little
> It never should  *difficulty. Later the top 3 were hanged. Labour won more
>   happen         *and live comfortably. But yeomanry robots evolve onwards)
> 
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> 
> --
> This new sig, here is a bit off topic.
> Pardon it, for it knows not its place in the representations of people.
> Yours sincerely John *?*?*?*?Us neurons, don't KNOW that much, period?*?*?*
> After all, what is existance, without socialising and alt.landfills?*?*
> I want the world to get better, not on a whim, but awesome tide of tech' power
> comes in, abusers and their oposition (planning purges?), grows in dangers*?*?
> ?*?*?*?*?*Weighing down my back is folded robot burden*?*?*?*?*?*?
> Whilest the computers completly double in power every 18 months, I dream of
> sucking juice from a tree, warm, comfortable, hiden and with a partner.
> Welcome to the fantastic toys planet, but watch yourself.