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Re: FreeNet Spamming - Responses?

#102
From: Jeff Garvas
Date: Mon, 05 Jun 1995 00:00
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Jamie Rishaw (jamie@multiverse.com) wrote:
: alt.internet.services?
: Wow.  So not only are you taking a *LOCAL* Cleveland issue and posting
: it to a *world wide* forum, you're bitching about a moot point.

Gee jamie. Did you manage to forget that a huge chunk of Free-Net 
individuals come from _other states_.. Maybe even out of the country?
The 'Cleveland Free-Net' is the original free-net. It has 300-400
people using it during its prime hours (9am till midnight maybe?)
Don't tell me this is local. Spamming hamnet would be local. Spamming
a system this big is huge.

: Perhaps the Internet community should bitch at you for wasting so much
: of (now *uninvoled peoples*) disk space.
: Whiny brat.

No, I think this public awarness is going to prevent the public disk space
from being consumed with you in the future. Consider what you, richard,
did when you spammed Free-net. You abused over 600megs of hard drive
space. Is it just a coincidence that when the spam went down, 
robin.ins.cwru.edu died, and was later reported as 'eating is disk' ?

: Greg Boehnlein (damin@nacs.net) wrote:
: : I would like to hear from everyone that was reached by the recent 
: : spamming of APK and the Cleveland FreeNet. I have been in contact with an 
: : attorney and due to recent developments would like to have written or 
: : E-mail statements of people that were directly affected by this 
: : mass-mailing.

: Who made you arbiter of what the Cleveland Freenet thinks?  I think
: that you should let the administration of Case Western Reserve University
: handle this.

Arbiter? How about a key person in Cleveland Internet (he is an ISP?)
thats interested in leading the people who were harrassed by you, to
their ultimate decision of recourse.

: "You claim to be the official representative of Case Western Reserve
:  University?  I'm calling my lawyer."

hahaha. Cleveland Freenet is a community system. CWRU does nothing for
the community when it comes to problems and you know that, so we must
take it on ourself.

: To quote, e-mail received at noc@mail.multiverse.com:
: 1. "Wow.  This is unreal.  I'll be calling tonight.."
: 2. " I am truly impressed! I've never seen such a price for the amount
:      of time ..."

Jamie, you're obviously sending mail to noc from richard or some silly
account you've made @nin.net.. Nobody mails a NOC when they're impressed
with something. They mail a NOC when the system won't do something its
supposed to.

: By the way, nice show last night, Jason Bourne.. er.. Jeff Garvas.

Muahahaha -ROFL- I expected this exact response out of Mr. Rishaw.
For your information Jamie, I intend to be on the show next Sunday
with more information then I had last night ;) It was posponed mainly
due to the fact that Steve has finals and hadn't enough time to prepare.

: oh, and

: Jun  5 03:31:41 sauron in.telnetd[2935]: refused connect from jbourne@ni.cba.csuohio.edu
: Jun  5 03:40:17 sauron in.fingerd[3046]: refused connect from jbourne@ni.cba.csuohio.edu
: Jun  5 03:40:25 sauron in.telnetd[3047]: refused connect from jbourne@ni.cba.csuohio.edu

: we don't appreciate people trying to hack our system.

I was not trying to hack your machine Jamie :) I was trying to access it
in a legal method, but i'm denied access so I stoped my attempts.
(notice, it didn't take me 5days)

: perhaps you should speak with your employee about this matter.

Was that directed to Greg? Tisk Tisk dear Jamie. You must have your head
up your ass again. I do not work for NACS (New Age Consulting) in any
way. I have never been paid for any services by NACS to this date, and
have never been an employee of NACS in any way, shape, or form. I am
simply a user on his system, and a friend of Gregs. There is a difference
between a good guy using a system without compensation, and and asshole
getting paid a salary.

: jamie rishaw

i'd be ashamed to sign my articles like that.
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From: jbourne@nacs.net (Jeff Garvas)
Subject: Re: FreeNet Spamming - Responses?
Date: 1995/06/05
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