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Started by Neb Okla
Tue, 03 May 2005 13:10
Issue 2 Commercials
Author: Neb Okla
Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 13:10
Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 13:10
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Anyone else getting a kick out of the Issue 2 commercials? The ads feature a woman smoking in a darkened room with an "Open" sign in the background (that's my favorite brand of beer - Open). In the background, a 10 or 11 year old girl can be seen coughing (and over acting) while a little boy plays a video game. The claim is apparently that the best way to keep your kids healthy is to maintain the ban on smoking in bars. They even mention that maintaining the bar ban "protects families" from second-hand smoke. My question is, what kind of a parent who cares about their kids welfare lets their kid hang out playing video games in a bar on a regular basis? Most of the kids I've known who did that were smoking by age 10 or so anyway. As for the "health issue" of banning smoking in bars - it'd probably be healthier if they banned drinking in bars, since alcohol consumption more directly kills far more people - and it's even addictive and causes liver cancer! Bars are establishments for adults to visit to make adult choices about the use of various drugs through various delivery methods. I'm afraid I don't see the point in singling out any particular portion of the bar experience. If people don't like smoking and drinking, maybe they should stay out of bars. I'm sure their parochialism wouldn't go over well there anyway.
Re: Issue 2 Commercials
Author: Matt Curtin
Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 17:01
Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 17:01
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Dear Mr. Okla: We have received your 3 May 2005 message entitled "Issue 2 Commercials" and thank you for your efforts in response. We want to take this opportunity to advise you that your remarks on the health issues of second-hand smoke seemed to hint at the fact that all argumentation on this topic goes back to a single study that was later rejected by the courts. Of course, we cannot have anyone question our assertions and want to ask you to take care not to encourage anyone to engage in the dangerous activity known as "thinking." Our advice on this front is unchanged: when pressed for specific facts, change the subject or increase your volume, but under no circumstances must we concede that the scientific validity of the assertion is in doubt. By anyone. Ever. Your suggestion to ban alcoholic beverages is an excellent one and we'll be considering it in full detail our upcoming secret tri-annual meeting at The Meadows. We'll be assessing the probability of success on this front in light of recent successes in acquiring signatures to a petition to ban dihydrogen monoxide, which as you know has managed to find its way into nearly everything that we eat and drink. We are sure that with your support, we will be successful in our attempts to eliminate everything that ever carried with it any risk of side-effects or offends our sensibilities. Please remember that our struggle is a long one and that constant vigilance is required if we're to succeed in helping the populace to complete its wholesale outsourcing of thought to the state, as dictated by our precious union of special interests. Sincerely, E. Zamyatin IV, chairperson The Working Group For A Better Everything of the Utopian Committee of The Pentaverate.
Re: Issue 2 Commercials
Author: Neb Okla
Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 20:18
Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 20:18
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"Matt Curtin" <cmcurtin@interhack.net> wrote in message news:8664y06y75.fsf@rowlf.interhack.net... > > We want to take this opportunity to advise you that your remarks on > the health issues of second-hand smoke seemed to hint at the fact that > all argumentation on this topic goes back to a single study that was > later rejected by the courts. Of course, we cannot have anyone You forgot to mention the part where the World Health Organization did a massive study in the late 90's and found that the effects of second-hand-smoke (SHS), especially on children, were insignificant. More details here: http://spaces.msn.com/members/40north/Blog/cns!1p5chIbAGeDErK8Gimvz5F6w!564.entry
Re: Issue 2 Commercials
Author: John
Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 12:09
Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 12:09
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"Neb Okla" <n_okla@hotmail.com> wrote in news:d57t8f$rm1$1@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu: > > Bars are establishments for adults to visit to make adult choices > about the use of various drugs through various delivery methods. I'm > afraid I don't see the point in singling out any particular portion of > the bar experience. If people don't like smoking and drinking, maybe > they should stay out of bars. I'm sure their parochialism wouldn't go > over well there anyway. > Doesn't matter anyway now... the Squids won their second battle. Let's see if it makes the ballot again. Evidently most of the smokers didn't care enough about their rights to get out and vote. I did.... but 10000 others didn't.
Re: Issue 2 Commercials
Author: Neb Okla
Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 22:15
Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 22:15
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I have no idea what these people are thinking. First they ban alcohol in strip clubs. Now it's smoking in bars. Heck, next thing you know they'll ban Mac laptops in Starbucks - oh wait, that's something they *like*. Maybe we should ban hot-dogs at Clippers baseball games. "John" <jlwsecure-usenet@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:Xns964D52A13B0A8jlwsecure@207.115.63.158... > "Neb Okla" <n_okla@hotmail.com> wrote in > news:d57t8f$rm1$1@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu: > > Doesn't matter anyway now... the Squids won their second battle. Let's > see > if it makes the ballot again. Evidently most of the smokers didn't care > enough about their rights to get out and vote. I did.... but 10000 others > didn't.
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