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5 total messages Started by Neb Okla Tue, 03 May 2005 13:10
Issue 2 Commercials
#193
Author: Neb Okla
Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 13:10
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Anyone else getting a kick out of the Issue 2 commercials?

The ads feature a woman smoking in a darkened room with an "Open" sign in 
the background (that's my favorite brand of beer - Open).  In the 
background, a 10 or 11 year old girl can be seen coughing (and over acting) 
while a little boy plays a video game.

The claim is apparently that the best way to keep your kids healthy is to 
maintain the ban on smoking in bars.  They even mention that maintaining the 
bar ban "protects families" from second-hand smoke.

My question is, what kind of a parent who cares about their kids welfare 
lets their kid hang out playing video games in a bar on a regular basis? 
Most of the kids I've known who did that were smoking by age 10 or so 
anyway.

As for the "health issue" of banning smoking in bars - it'd probably be 
healthier if they banned drinking in bars, since alcohol consumption more 
directly kills far more people - and it's even addictive and causes liver 
cancer!

Bars are establishments for adults to visit to make adult choices about the 
use of various drugs through various delivery methods.  I'm afraid I don't 
see the point in singling out any particular portion of the bar experience. 
If people don't like smoking and drinking, maybe they should stay out of 
bars.  I'm sure their parochialism wouldn't go over well there anyway.
Re: Issue 2 Commercials
#194
Author: Matt Curtin
Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 17:01
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Dear Mr. Okla:

We have received your 3 May 2005 message entitled "Issue 2
Commercials" and thank you for your efforts in response.

We want to take this opportunity to advise you that your remarks on
the health issues of second-hand smoke seemed to hint at the fact that
all argumentation on this topic goes back to a single study that was
later rejected by the courts.  Of course, we cannot have anyone
question our assertions and want to ask you to take care not to
encourage anyone to engage in the dangerous activity known as
"thinking."  Our advice on this front is unchanged: when pressed for
specific facts, change the subject or increase your volume, but under
no circumstances must we concede that the scientific validity of the
assertion is in doubt.  By anyone.  Ever.

Your suggestion to ban alcoholic beverages is an excellent one and
we'll be considering it in full detail our upcoming secret tri-annual
meeting at The Meadows.  We'll be assessing the probability of success
on this front in light of recent successes in acquiring signatures to
a petition to ban dihydrogen monoxide, which as you know has managed
to find its way into nearly everything that we eat and drink.

We are sure that with your support, we will be successful in our
attempts to eliminate everything that ever carried with it any risk of
side-effects or offends our sensibilities.  Please remember that our
struggle is a long one and that constant vigilance is required if
we're to succeed in helping the populace to complete its wholesale
outsourcing of thought to the state, as dictated by our precious union
of special interests.

Sincerely,

E. Zamyatin IV, chairperson
The Working Group For A Better Everything of the Utopian Committee of
The Pentaverate.
Re: Issue 2 Commercials
#196
Author: Neb Okla
Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 20:18
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"Matt Curtin" <cmcurtin@interhack.net> wrote in message 
news:8664y06y75.fsf@rowlf.interhack.net...
>
> We want to take this opportunity to advise you that your remarks on
> the health issues of second-hand smoke seemed to hint at the fact that
> all argumentation on this topic goes back to a single study that was
> later rejected by the courts.  Of course, we cannot have anyone

You forgot to mention the part where the World Health Organization did a 
massive study in the late 90's and found that the effects of 
second-hand-smoke (SHS), especially on children, were insignificant.

More details here:
http://spaces.msn.com/members/40north/Blog/cns!1p5chIbAGeDErK8Gimvz5F6w!564.entry
Re: Issue 2 Commercials
#53
Author: John
Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 12:09
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"Neb Okla" <n_okla@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:d57t8f$rm1$1@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu: 

> 
> Bars are establishments for adults to visit to make adult choices
> about the use of various drugs through various delivery methods.  I'm
> afraid I don't see the point in singling out any particular portion of
> the bar experience. If people don't like smoking and drinking, maybe
> they should stay out of bars.  I'm sure their parochialism wouldn't go
> over well there anyway. 
> 
Doesn't matter anyway now... the Squids won their second battle.  Let's see 
if it makes the ballot again.  Evidently most of the smokers didn't care 
enough about their rights to get out and vote.  I did.... but 10000 others 
didn't.
Re: Issue 2 Commercials
#55
Author: Neb Okla
Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 22:15
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I have no idea what these people are thinking.

First they ban alcohol in strip clubs.  Now it's smoking in bars.

Heck, next thing you know they'll ban Mac laptops in Starbucks - oh wait, 
that's something they *like*.

Maybe we should ban hot-dogs at Clippers baseball games.


"John" <jlwsecure-usenet@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
news:Xns964D52A13B0A8jlwsecure@207.115.63.158...
> "Neb Okla" <n_okla@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:d57t8f$rm1$1@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu:
>
> Doesn't matter anyway now... the Squids won their second battle.  Let's 
> see
> if it makes the ballot again.  Evidently most of the smokers didn't care
> enough about their rights to get out and vote.  I did.... but 10000 others
> didn't.
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