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Article #77Re: No Hands Across America - Robot car drives from Pittsburgh to LA
From: Robert Rubinoff
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 1995 00:00
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 1995 00:00
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In article <1995Jul7.092836.18718@zippy.dct.ac.uk>, Colin Johnson <colinj@iris.maths.napier.ac.uk> wrote: >: Has anyone actually looked into the legal aspects of this? I'm no lawyer, >: but it seems quite likely to me that if the car is pulled over for any >: reason, >: the "driver" will end up in jail (at least for a day or two) and the vehicle >: may be seized. And while CMU would probably be able to get it back >: eventually, >: it could take months (not to mention the unpleasantness for the driver). >: Robert >I wonder about this . . . one reasonable defence would be that there >was someone sitting in the driving seat, driving the car, but that >the car had such sophisticaed assistance systems that the driver >need never actually touch any controls. >At what point does the car take over the driving function?? Cars can >do a lot of things to help the driver, such as automatic transmission. >Is there a particular set of actions which legally defines "driving" >---e.g. steering, acceleration control, et cetera. Or is the car allowed >to do as many functions as it is capable of. At what point does >"assistance" become "control"?? All very interesting...but my point is that leaving the resolution of these issues in the hands of the surprised cop who stops the car is not a wonderful idea. If I were that cop, I would be likely to impound the car indefinitely, and let a judge sort it out. (Probably the "driver" will be let go, as he's probably legally just a passenger!) And, of course, if Navlab is involved in an accident, CMU's liability could be huge. (Is it insured? Inspected? I doubt it...which means that it's not legal to drive it on the street.) Robert
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fd6dd,6ac6bc68d0911896 X-Google-Attributes: gidfd6dd,public X-Google-Thread: f7386,6ac6bc68d0911896 X-Google-Attributes: gidf7386,public X-Google-Thread: 11c21e,6ac6bc68d0911896 X-Google-Attributes: gid11c21e,public X-Google-Thread: 100110,6ac6bc68d0911896 X-Google-Attributes: gid100110,public From: rubinoff+@cs.cmu.edu (Robert Rubinoff) Subject: Re: No Hands Across America - Robot car drives from Pittsburgh to LA Date: 1995/07/07 Message-ID: <3tk3qj$em4@cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu> X-Deja-AN: 105837783 references: <3snc72$ah8@cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu> <3teel7$fpi@cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu> <1995Jul7.092836.18718@zippy.dct.ac.uk> organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon newsgroups: cmu.cs.robotics,cmu.cs.robotics-students,comp.robotics,comp.robotics.misc