Article View: cna.today
Article #4Re: Big Bro
From: Scott
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 00:00
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 00:00
261 lines
10556 bytes
10556 bytes
Loser iluvbob wrote: > > Don't these people ever learn? abuse@flash.net > > Path: > newscene.newscene.com!novia!newspump.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmou > th.com!nntp.flash.net!news.flash.net!not-for-mail > From: "Count Floyd" <joe@flaherty.net> > Newsgroups: > cna.today,24hoursupport.helpdesk,3b.config,3b.misc,3b.tech,3b.tes > t > Subject: Big Bro > Lines: 153 > X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 > Message-ID: <KeQD2.276$BD5.410@news.flash.net> > Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 12:38:02 GMT > NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.30.166.43 > X-Complaints-To: abuse@flash.net > X-Trace: news.flash.net 920637482 209.30.166.43 (Fri, 05 Mar 1999 > 06:38:02 CDT) > NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 06:38:02 CDT > Organization: FlashNet Communications, http://www.flash.net > Xref: newscene.newscene.com cna.today:368089 > 24hoursupport.helpdesk:34679 3b.config:17995 3b.misc:17910 > 3b.tech:4566 3b.test:36387 > > How would you like a Federal Agent knocking on your door and you > having to > explain that you got the extra $100 dollars from selling > something personal? > It's the big boys that is pushing dirty money to the laundry, not > us small > guys. > Tell Washington to back out of our lives and out of our bank > accounts. > > U.S. GOVERNMENT PLAN TO SPY ON BANK CUSTOMERS REVEALED; MARCH 8 > IS DEADLINE > TO STOP IT > by Phyllis Schlafly > > The Clinton Administration's stealth plan to monitor everyone's > personal > bank account has hit a bump in the road. With the public > comment score now standing at 51,000 -to-18 against the > controversial Know > Your Customer (KYC) regulation, the once-friendly FDIC (Federal > Deposit > Insurance Corporation) is rethinking its plan to require every > bank to > computerize a financial profile on every customer (including the > source of > all funds) and report "inconsistent" deposits and withdrawals to > the federal > Gestapo. > > Here is how Know Your Customer is projected to function. Each > bank is > required to determine the identity of all its customers, > determine each > customer's sources of funds; determine each customer's normal and > expected > bank transactions; monitor the activity of each account, looking > for > deposits and withdrawals that are inconsistent with the expected > pattern of > financial transactions. > > The bank will then make up a profile of all your financial > transactions on a > database. The bank will maintain a computer record of the > amounts you normally deposit each month and the sources of the > money (e.g., > your weekly paycheck, your Social Security, your stock dividends) > and the > amounts you normally withdraw each month (e.g., rent or mortgage, > automobile > payment, food, utilities, credit card payment, cash for pocket > money). > > If you deviate significantly from this pattern (such as by > earning some > extra money or buying or selling a car), the KYC spies in your > local bank > will forward your "suspicious" transactions to a huge database in > Detroit > called the Suspicious Activity Reporting System, which is > administered by > FinCEN (Financial Crimes Enforcement Network) and shared with a > dozen other > agencies. > > The KYC regulation was simultaneously announced by the Federal > Reserve > System, the Office of Thrift Supervision, and the Comptroller of > the > Currency as well as the FDIC, but those other agencies have not > revealed how > many negative comments they have received. > > About 93 percent of the critical comments received by the FDIC > came from > individuals, not banks. Isn't that interesting. The large > number from individuals proves the new power of the Internet to > alert the > grassroots to Clinton's privacy invading maneuvers. > > The small number of complaints from bankers reflects the fact > that the > American Bankers Association originally endorsed KYC and may have > helped to > draft it. The big banks are only too happy to use a federal > regulation as > "cover" for computerizing nosy details about their customers that > are so > valuable for marketing purposes. Under current federal law, a > bank may sell > or transfer any information it acquires about its customers to a > third > party, such as a direct marketer or another financial > institution, without > notifying the customer. Your bank can disclose your account > balances, > certificate of deposit maturity dates and balances, and > information about > checks written or deposited into your account. > > Sen. Paul Sarbanes (D-MD) has introduced S.187, the Financial > Information > Privacy Act, to require banks to tell their customers what data > it sells or > shares, to whom and for what purposes, and to give its customers > the right > to "opt out." That's good as far as it goes, but we also need > legislation to > stop the banks from giving such information to the government. > > Rep. Bob Barr (R-GA) has introduced the American Financial > Institutions > Privacy Act to block implementation of the Know Your > Customer regulations. Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) has introduced the > Financial > Privacy Protection Package to do likewise, and also to > sunset the Bank Secrecy Act that has encouraged such overreaching > regulations, and also to allow Americans to see their > own FinCEN files (similar to laws that allow us to see our own > FBI and > credit bureau files). > > The stakes for Americans are clearly defined in a timely new book > called The > End of Money and the Struggle for Financial Privacy by Richard W. > Rahn, > Ph.D., nationally known economist and now a senior fellow with > the > Seattle-based Discovery Institute. Describing how the new > technologies are > making rapid and dramatic changes in our lifestyle, he poses the > question of > whether this will bring us more freedom or less. The answer > depends on > whether or not we permit Big Government to conspire with Big > Business to > monitor not only all our financial transactions, but also our > ordinary daily > activities. The Big Government advocates are trying to claim that > individual > control over technological innovation is suspect and a threat to > law > enforcement. > > The major excuse for the Clinton Administration's assault on our > financial > privacy is "money laundering," most of which comes from > the illegal drug trade. But attempts to stop drug use by chasing > money > launderers have been a costly and spectacular failure, they > catch only a few small dealers rather than drug kingpins, and > they are a > gross invasion of the privacy of law-abiding Americans. > > The threat of terrorism is another Clinton excuse for > anti-privacy > regulations, but there is no evidence that any significant > terrorist was > ever deterred by the money laundering cops. The billions of > dollars wasted > in pursuing money laundering has merely increased the power of > the > politicians to monitor our lives and increased the number of > busybody > bureaucrats with a vested interest in retaining useless jobs. > > Hitler and Stalin gave us the model of how tyranny maintains > itself. Pass so > many laws that everyone is a potential criminal, and then law > enforcement > can be arbitrary, selective, and very political. That's why the > Clinton > Administration has pushed the creation of hundreds of new federal > crimes by > > legislation and thousands more by federal regulations. Any act of > dishonesty > in which a mailed item, a telephone call, or a bank deposit plays > a role has > now become a federal crime. > > We simply don't trust the Clinton Administration to have the kind > of > information about our personal lives that the KYC regulation > would provide. > You have until March 8 to email your complaint to > comments@fdic.gov , or fax > it to (202) 898-3838. > > http://www.wired.com/news/news/politics/story/18019.html > > PLEASE CLICK ON THIS LINK AND VOTE, Please!!! > http://www.defendyourprivacy.com > > _________________________________________________ > Links to the FDIC's Know Your Customer proposed regulation: > > Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (includes link to Know Your > Customer > Statistics - a summary of the comments received on the Know Your > Customer > proposal.) > http://www.fdic.gov/banknews/know.html > > Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation - Notice of proposed > rulemaking. > http://www.fdic.gov/lawsregs/fedr/98knocus.txt > > Department of the Treasury - Office of the Comptroller of the > Currency > http://www.occ.treas.gov/ftp/release/98%2D120a.txt > > Department of the Treasury - Office of Thrift Supervision > http://www.ots.treas.gov/docs/73062.html > > Federal Reserve System > http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=1998_re > gister&doci > d=98-32332 > _________________________________________________________________ > ________ > Eagle Forum * P.O. Box 618 * Alton, IL 62002 Office: > 618-462-5415 * Fax: > 618-462-8909 E-mail: eagle@eagleforum.org > Web Site: http://www.eagleforum.org > > To subscribe to Eagle E-mail > please e-mail eagle@eagleforum.org > with SUBSCRIBE in the subject line > > CLICK HERE RETURN TO MAIN WEBSITE MENU
Technical Details
Message-ID:
<36E05C00.D2E1EEF6@localaccess.com>Path:
arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!unknown!not-for-mailReferences:
<KeQD2.276$BD5.410@news.flash.net> <JZVD2.31265$F63.76237@newscene.newscene.com>Show Full Headers
Complete Article Headers
X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1081d7,9ce893a5731215b X-Google-Attributes: gid1081d7,public X-Google-Thread: 10e6dc,9ce893a5731215b X-Google-Attributes: gid10e6dc,public X-Google-Thread: 11640a,9ce893a5731215b X-Google-Attributes: gid11640a,public X-Google-Thread: fad61,9ce893a5731215b X-Google-Attributes: gidfad61,public X-Google-Thread: faa3c,9ce893a5731215b X-Google-Attributes: gidfaa3c,public X-Google-Thread: 105a50,9ce893a5731215b X-Google-Attributes: gid105a50,public From: Scott <sknutson@localaccess.com> Subject: Re: Big Bro Date: 1999/03/05 Message-ID: <36E05C00.D2E1EEF6@localaccess.com> X-Deja-AN: 451721298 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <KeQD2.276$BD5.410@news.flash.net> <JZVD2.31265$F63.76237@newscene.newscene.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@remarQ.com X-Trace: 920673086 C4TGOY8WA976ACF99C usenet77.supernews.com Organization: Posted via RemarQ, http://www.remarQ.com - Discussions start here! Mime-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: cna.today,24hoursupport.helpdesk,3b.config,3b.misc,3b.tech,3b.test