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Re: Proposed Revision to co.* Charter

#42
From: Kingfish
Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 14:12
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"Tom Morgengill" <tmorgen@nonewsguy.com> wrote in message
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:
: For a disscussion group charter to be accepted by usenet users and
: more particularly the news companies, protocol should be followed.
: There are several problems with your proposed RFD and you need to
: follow usenet protocol more closely.  The current rules of usenet
: would seem to apply to most of your suggestions here without any
: action by the participants.
:
: Tom.
:

this is an rfd.

perhaps you could let us know what you are talking about.



: On Sat, 03 Aug 2002 21:36:58 GMT, "Kingfish"
: <spam_trap_void@yahoo.com> wrote:
:
: >Proposed Revised Posting Rules for the co.* hierarchy 8/03/2002.
: >If approved by consensus these rules will go into effect 8/18/2002.
: >
: >
: >
: >Please post any additional guidelines that would be appropriate or
: >opposition to guidelines that do not serve the best interest of the co.*
: >groups.
: >
: >
: >These newsgroup posting guidelines apply only to the co.* hierarchy, and
: >will remain in force until such time as a committee is formed to assume
: >responsibility for the day-to-day affairs of the hierarchy or they are
: >changed by consensus.
: >
: >
: >Introduction:
: >
: >In Usenet tradition, there are generally only two kinds of newsgroups -
: >moderated and unmoderated.  The difference between the two is that anyone
: >can post just about anything they want to an unmoderated group, whereas
: >nobody can post anything to a moderated group without the approval of the
: >moderator.
: >
: >Readers and posters are expected to give their full support to this
charter
: >so that the co.* newsgroups don't turn into cesspools of inappropriate
: >crossposts and flamewars.  But first, they need to know some of the rules
: >that have been handed down by the original creators of the Usenet
newsgroups
: >as well as some that have been added by the current users of the co.*
: >hierarchy. Here are some of the more important do's and don'ts:
: >
: >1. Do not post binaries, HTML, v-cards, or other non-standard stuff in
the
: >co.* hierarchy.  Usenet is a plain text medium, which was never intended
to
: >be an extension of the World Wide Web. Instead of posting stuff from your
: >website to a newsgroup, post
: >a pointer telling people where to find your website, and what they can
: >expect to see.
: >
: >2. Do not advertise in non ads groups.  If a group has "ads" as part of
it's
: >name, it is ok to advertise in that group; likewise if a group does not
have
: >"ads" in the title of the group, advertising is not permitted in that
group.
: >Do not repost ads from others, allow the authors of an ad to decide on
its
: >proper placement and do not post Make Money Fast get-rich-quick schemes
or
: >chain letters.  Posting ads in non-ads groups will be considered a
violation
: >of the co.* hierarchy charter and you will be reported to your ISP or
: >news-service and you will lose your account.
: >
: >
: >3. Do not crosspost to more than 5 groups, including the co.* group from
: >which you are posting, and be careful when crossposting to newsgroups in
: >other hierarchies.  Different hierarchies have different rules and, when
you
: >crosspost to another hierarchy, your article is subject to those other
: >rules.
: >
: >4. Check the newsgroups line before responding to an article. If more
than
: >five groups are listed, delete the least appropriate group(s) until there
: >are only five left.  Adjust follow-ups as well, if that appears to be
: >necessary.  Then, at the top of your article, insert something like the
: >following note in brackets:
: >
: >[newsgroups trimmed -- the co.* hierarchy has a 5G crosspost limit]
: >
: >5. Do not post or crosspost to moderated groups unless you have read the
: >charter and understand the moderation rules.  An article sent to a
moderated
: >group will not be posted anywhere until and unless it is approved by the
: >moderator of the moderated group.
: >
: >6.  Do not quote an entire message just to respond to one point. It is
: >better to quote only the part you are responding to, and to cut
everything
: >else from your response.  Also, be careful when making attributions as to
: >who made the statement you are responding to.  Most software will insert
the
: >attribution lines for you, but you should always check to be sure they
are
: >correct. Other people will be upset if you make a mistake and put words
: >in their mouth.
: >
: >7.  Set your line width at no more than 75 characters.  This allows an
: >additional five spaces for the quote marks in follow-ups so that other
: >posters don't have to reformat your articles in order to send a readable
: >reply.
: >
: >8. Do not SHOUT at people by posting in ALL CAPS, even if you are really
: >angry.  Use asterisks (*) or underlines (_) instead to emphasize words or
: >phrases. It is easier to read "I am really angry with you" than it is to
: >read "I AM REALLY ANGRY WITH
: >YOU."
: >
: >9. Do not post articles in other people's names, not even in jest.
Forgery
: >is taken quite seriously in Usenet, and you could lose your account.
: >
: >10.  Do not post private email in the newsgroups without permission from
: >your correspondent.  When people see their email spread around, they tend
to
: >quickly lose faith in the person who spread it. If by chance you _do_
: >accidentally post email to a newsgroup, be sure to apologize right away.
: >
: >
: >
: >11. "Flood Attacks" or posting mass groups of messages pushes other posts
: >off of various news servers and amounts to a Denial of Service to other
: >messages in a group.  Violators will be reported to their ISP and/or
: >newsgroup/news-service provider.
: >
: >
: >12. Beware of heated conversations.  Sometimes they turn into flamewars,
: >which are often very hard to stop.  If you see a flamewar brewing, try
not
: >to get involved.  If you find yourself in strong disagreement with
another
: >poster, ask yourself if it is worth it to
: >respond.  If your response is likely to start or continue a flamewar, it
: >might be best to _not_ respond rather than add fuel to the fire. There is
no
: >rule that says you must respond to every article.
: >
: >Cancellation Policy:
: >
: >Certain articles may be subject to cancellation, including but not
limited
: >to: Make-Money-Fast chain letters and pyramid schemes; binaries in
: >non-binary groups; and advertising in groups not designated for
advertising
: >with ".ads" as part of its' name and "flooding".  The best way to avoid
such
: >cancellations is to not post these types of articles and to not "spam" in
: >Usenet.
: >
: >Third-party cancels will be issued for blatant violations of the posting
: >guidelines found in the paragraph above.
: >
: >If a poster or service provider feels a cancel was unfair, an appeal may
be
: >posted for discussion in co.config.  The decision will be made by
consensus
: >of the group in co.config, and apologies will be made to anyone who can
show
: >that a cancel was unfair.
: >
: >Suspected forgeries will be reported directly to the originating site.
: >
: >Unauthorized use of registered domains will be reported directly to the
: >domain whose name is apparently being misused.
: >
: >Amendments:
: >
: >These rules may not be amended without full RFD discussion in co.config.
: >Any person may post an RFD suggesting amendments to these rules.  The
: >procedure to be followed will be the same as for a newsgroup proposal --
two
: >weeks minimum discussion, possibly extended twice, and then (hopefully) a
: >decision will be made by consensus without the need for conducting any
: >votes. Once a hierarchy committee is formed, the committee is free to
: >propose and adopt its own posting rules.
: >
: >Approved by consensus in co.config on   (currently under discussion as of
: >8/3/2002)
: >
: >
: >---
: >
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: >Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release Date: 8/2/2002
: >
:


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