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Article #50Re: Proposed Revision to co.* Charter
From: tmorgen
Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 03:12
Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 03:12
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On Sun, 04 Aug 2002 14:12:21 GMT, "Kingfish" <spam_trap_void@yahoo.com> wrote: > >"Tom Morgengill" <tmorgen@nonewsguy.com> wrote in message >news:1v9qkuo4132l8jm1kvvrh9t0gqpk79kr16@4ax.com... >: >: For a disscussion group charter to be accepted by usenet users and >: more particularly the news companies, protocol should be followed. >: There are several problems with your proposed RFD and you need to >: follow usenet protocol more closely. The current rules of usenet >: would seem to apply to most of your suggestions here without any >: action by the participants. >: >: Tom. >: > >this is an rfd. > >perhaps you could let us know what you are talking about. > And this RFD is being conducted for the purpose of changing to or clearifing the current charter of which newsgroup? Surely not all of the co.* groups? > > >: On Sat, 03 Aug 2002 21:36:58 GMT, "Kingfish" >: <spam_trap_void@yahoo.com> wrote: >: >: >Proposed Revised Posting Rules for the co.* hierarchy 8/03/2002. >: >If approved by consensus these rules will go into effect 8/18/2002. >: > >: > >: > >: >Please post any additional guidelines that would be appropriate or >: >opposition to guidelines that do not serve the best interest of the co.* >: >groups. >: > >: > >: >These newsgroup posting guidelines apply only to the co.* hierarchy, and >: >will remain in force until such time as a committee is formed to assume >: >responsibility for the day-to-day affairs of the hierarchy or they are >: >changed by consensus. >: > >: > >: >Introduction: >: > >: >In Usenet tradition, there are generally only two kinds of newsgroups - >: >moderated and unmoderated. The difference between the two is that anyone >: >can post just about anything they want to an unmoderated group, whereas >: >nobody can post anything to a moderated group without the approval of the >: >moderator. >: > >: >Readers and posters are expected to give their full support to this >charter >: >so that the co.* newsgroups don't turn into cesspools of inappropriate >: >crossposts and flamewars. But first, they need to know some of the rules >: >that have been handed down by the original creators of the Usenet >newsgroups >: >as well as some that have been added by the current users of the co.* >: >hierarchy. Here are some of the more important do's and don'ts: >: > >: >1. Do not post binaries, HTML, v-cards, or other non-standard stuff in >the >: >co.* hierarchy. Usenet is a plain text medium, which was never intended >to >: >be an extension of the World Wide Web. Instead of posting stuff from your >: >website to a newsgroup, post >: >a pointer telling people where to find your website, and what they can >: >expect to see. >: > >: >2. Do not advertise in non ads groups. If a group has "ads" as part of >it's >: >name, it is ok to advertise in that group; likewise if a group does not >have >: >"ads" in the title of the group, advertising is not permitted in that >group. >: >Do not repost ads from others, allow the authors of an ad to decide on >its >: >proper placement and do not post Make Money Fast get-rich-quick schemes >or >: >chain letters. Posting ads in non-ads groups will be considered a >violation >: >of the co.* hierarchy charter and you will be reported to your ISP or >: >news-service and you will lose your account. >: > >: > >: >3. Do not crosspost to more than 5 groups, including the co.* group from >: >which you are posting, and be careful when crossposting to newsgroups in >: >other hierarchies. Different hierarchies have different rules and, when >you >: >crosspost to another hierarchy, your article is subject to those other >: >rules. >: > >: >4. Check the newsgroups line before responding to an article. If more >than >: >five groups are listed, delete the least appropriate group(s) until there >: >are only five left. Adjust follow-ups as well, if that appears to be >: >necessary. Then, at the top of your article, insert something like the >: >following note in brackets: >: > >: >[newsgroups trimmed -- the co.* hierarchy has a 5G crosspost limit] >: > >: >5. Do not post or crosspost to moderated groups unless you have read the >: >charter and understand the moderation rules. An article sent to a >moderated >: >group will not be posted anywhere until and unless it is approved by the >: >moderator of the moderated group. >: > >: >6. Do not quote an entire message just to respond to one point. It is >: >better to quote only the part you are responding to, and to cut >everything >: >else from your response. Also, be careful when making attributions as to >: >who made the statement you are responding to. Most software will insert >the >: >attribution lines for you, but you should always check to be sure they >are >: >correct. Other people will be upset if you make a mistake and put words >: >in their mouth. >: > >: >7. Set your line width at no more than 75 characters. This allows an >: >additional five spaces for the quote marks in follow-ups so that other >: >posters don't have to reformat your articles in order to send a readable >: >reply. >: > >: >8. Do not SHOUT at people by posting in ALL CAPS, even if you are really >: >angry. Use asterisks (*) or underlines (_) instead to emphasize words or >: >phrases. It is easier to read "I am really angry with you" than it is to >: >read "I AM REALLY ANGRY WITH >: >YOU." >: > >: >9. Do not post articles in other people's names, not even in jest. >Forgery >: >is taken quite seriously in Usenet, and you could lose your account. >: > >: >10. Do not post private email in the newsgroups without permission from >: >your correspondent. When people see their email spread around, they tend >to >: >quickly lose faith in the person who spread it. If by chance you _do_ >: >accidentally post email to a newsgroup, be sure to apologize right away. >: > >: > >: > >: >11. "Flood Attacks" or posting mass groups of messages pushes other posts >: >off of various news servers and amounts to a Denial of Service to other >: >messages in a group. Violators will be reported to their ISP and/or >: >newsgroup/news-service provider. >: > >: > >: >12. Beware of heated conversations. Sometimes they turn into flamewars, >: >which are often very hard to stop. If you see a flamewar brewing, try >not >: >to get involved. If you find yourself in strong disagreement with >another >: >poster, ask yourself if it is worth it to >: >respond. If your response is likely to start or continue a flamewar, it >: >might be best to _not_ respond rather than add fuel to the fire. There is >no >: >rule that says you must respond to every article. >: > >: >Cancellation Policy: >: > >: >Certain articles may be subject to cancellation, including but not >limited >: >to: Make-Money-Fast chain letters and pyramid schemes; binaries in >: >non-binary groups; and advertising in groups not designated for >advertising >: >with ".ads" as part of its' name and "flooding". The best way to avoid >such >: >cancellations is to not post these types of articles and to not "spam" in >: >Usenet. >: > >: >Third-party cancels will be issued for blatant violations of the posting >: >guidelines found in the paragraph above. >: > >: >If a poster or service provider feels a cancel was unfair, an appeal may >be >: >posted for discussion in co.config. The decision will be made by >consensus >: >of the group in co.config, and apologies will be made to anyone who can >show >: >that a cancel was unfair. >: > >: >Suspected forgeries will be reported directly to the originating site. >: > >: >Unauthorized use of registered domains will be reported directly to the >: >domain whose name is apparently being misused. >: > >: >Amendments: >: > >: >These rules may not be amended without full RFD discussion in co.config. >: >Any person may post an RFD suggesting amendments to these rules. The >: >procedure to be followed will be the same as for a newsgroup proposal -- >two >: >weeks minimum discussion, possibly extended twice, and then (hopefully) a >: >decision will be made by consensus without the need for conducting any >: >votes. Once a hierarchy committee is formed, the committee is free to >: >propose and adopt its own posting rules. >: > >: >Approved by consensus in co.config on (currently under discussion as of >: >8/3/2002) >: > >: > >: >--- >: > >: >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >: >Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release Date: 8/2/2002 >: > >: > > >--- > >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release Date: 8/3/2002
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