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Article #1377Re: Colorado Springs Photo Cop
From: Bernhard A. Rieckhoff
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 00:00
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 00:00
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In article <4v0e6j$gpc@hermes.dna.mci.com>, davem@metal.con.mci.com (Dave) writes: >"NMA [Bob M.]" <nma@motorists.com> wrote: > >>The biggest problem with photo radar is that you can't face your accuser. -SNIP... >The machine is not the accuser, the machine is a tool. The accuser is -SNIP.. The real problem is a court system that merely accepts that a tool is effective and (in essence) summarily convicts. The advantage in terms of civil liberty of having an attended system (cop with radar) is that typically other corroborating evidence or lack thereof result in a fairer disbursement of justice. For example in a speeding case, the radar operator has some visual evidence of speed (subject is passing other vehicles, appears to be materially faster than normal traffic etc.). If a radar operator couldn't truthfully testify in court that a radar reading was consistent with his or her own judgement of speed then there would likely be no conviction and in fact there would likely not have been a citation either. With unattended photo radar the usual assumption in court is that, if it's your face and your tags in the picture, then, you must have been in violation. Further it usually winds up that the defendant must prove that the system was flawed, almost impossible to do since the defendant would probably be unable to recall what were likely to be entirely unremarkable events or circumstances around what happened several days or weeks before receipt of a citation. -- PLEASE REPLY TO: brieckhoff@houston.geoquest.slb.com Bernhard Rieckhoff Sr. Geophysicist, Schlumberger-GeoQuest Denver, CO USA Voice (303) 486-3204 FAX (303) 694-4690 *Opinions expressed here are unlikely to reflect those of my employer*
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10e16d,fed90c3e9f3c4bb2 X-Google-Attributes: gid10e16d,public X-Google-Thread: 1073ca,fed90c3e9f3c4bb2 X-Google-Attributes: gid1073ca,public X-Google-Thread: 115916,fed90c3e9f3c4bb2 X-Google-Attributes: gid115916,public From: bar@canuck.englewood (Bernhard A. Rieckhoff) Subject: Re: Colorado Springs Photo Cop Date: 1996/08/16 Message-ID: <4v2889$k0b@ohnasn01.sinet.slb.com> X-Deja-AN: 174741046 references: <4u7uob$8k2@natasha.rmii.com> <4u8ckf$5kv@fcnews.fc.hp.com> organization: Schlumberger newsgroups: co.cos.general,co.general,rec.autos.driving