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Re: The Ugly Truth About #OccupyDenver

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From: chatnoir
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 17:39
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On Dec 15, 11:45 pm, Anonymous <Anonymous@Anonymous> wrote:
> Just figured out that you're being used as a useful idiot, did you?

Just reporting the news - unlike some!


>
> Occupy my asshole with your lips, commie!
>
> chatnoir <wolfbat3...@mindspring.com>  wrote :
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> >http://www.squarestate.net/diary/1944/the-ugly-truth-about-occupydenver
>
> > The Ugly Truth About #OccupyDenver
> > by: Fong
> > Wed Dec 14, 2011 at 08:17:00 AM MST
>
> > I've been on the PR team of Occupy Denver for about two months now and
> > that involvement has shown me the underbelly of the beast. Keep in
> > mind that everything I write below is just the the tip of the iceberg
> > and understand that I write this because I'm tired of witnessing the
> > consistent reckless behavior that puts innocent people at risk.
> > At the December 3rd rally, Corey Donahue gave a speech in support of
> > his Walmart blockade he managed to pass through the General Assembly
> > he frequently renounces as illegitimate and ineffective. He spoke
> > about the need for people to put their "bodies on the line" for the
> > action. I pulled him aside and he tells me that the goal of his action
> > is "bring out hundreds of police to show the world that the police are
> > defending corporate america and not the protestors." In the midst of
> > my shock of the stupidity and lack of transparency of his motivation,
> > he reminds me that he is under legal advice to not get arrested again
> > because he has too many prior offenses, so he won't be participating
> > in his call to put bodies on the line.
>
> > How he has a shred of credibility after hiding behind his priors while
> > telling people to put their lives on the line, I can only attribute to
> > his feeding the homeless (and then encouraging them into being
> > fodder??).
>
> > Can you say David Koresh?
>
> > Fong :: The Ugly Truth About #OccupyDenver
> > Then there was the tents.
>
> > (((VIDEO AT SITE)))
>
> > Occupiers would set up tents during peak crowd hours with the
> > intention of bringing in the cops to crack heads, in an effort to show
> > the world that the police are brutal.
>
> > Yeah, the public has had numerous opportunities to do something about
> > police brutality, but not much is done about it. So why use innocent
> > people, who want a safe place to protest with a community of like-
> > minded people, as fodder for a stupid plan? And why don't other Occupy
> > Denver people do anything about it? Why do they refuse to recognize
> > it?
>
> > Oh right, this is why. They're twisting St Paul Principle #1 "We
> > respect a diversity of tactics."
>
> > And then there was talk about a plan to burn cars for the Walmart
> > blockade Monday morning. Once I got wind of the tentative plan, I put
> > out a tweet (which has since been censored and removed) stating
> > "Anyone planning violence/destruction for the 12/12 Walmart action are
> > warned from doing so and will be dealt with by Occupy Denver and by
> > any means necessary."
>
> > Cos yeah, if you're going to put innocent people at risk, I'll break
> > my silence and revulsion for the police, and I'll call for their help
> > because it's the only help available.  Sadly, in this case, the police
> > are better than Occupiers.
>
> > Bullying, backstabbing and all that good stuff has been used by people
> > at Occupy Denver in the stead of affinity. There is really nothing
> > that can tie people together for a common cause when one party is hell-
> > bent on juvenile domination. You should see the way otherwise good
> > people compromise with the insane!
>
> > So because of that tweet, I was accused of fueling rumors and lies and
> > helping the police. But if someone went through with that stupid,
> > pointless plan, I'd be implicated in the crime during the
> > investigation because I know that someone talked about it and I did
> > nothing. So I did something. Yet somehow, I'm the bad guy for tweeting
> > about accountability? And then it gets censored? Wow.
>
> > There are serious transparency and accountability issues at Occupy
> > Denver.
>
> > I wish I could say good things. When people corner me about my
> > involvement in OD, I feel bad that I don't have good things to say.
>
> > I'd like to say "we're a community that welcomes the working class and
> > we're slowly but surely working towards solving problems" but instead
> > there are privileged kids, who have been waiting to pounce on a
> > movement like this to implement their juvenile delusions about
> > revolution.
>
> > My armchair psychoanalysis of some Denver Occupiers is that they
> > aren't interested in the work it takes to create real change. They'd
> > rather have the emotional satisfaction of saying "hey, I have a hard
> > core idea about revolution and if you aren't in, then it's because
> > you're a pussy and I'm superior. So really it's your fault if it
> > doesn't happen."
>
> > It's weak, it's egotistical, and it's never going to work.
>
> > So far I've seen ass-kissing, fear-mongering, death threats, theft,
> > fights, using innocent people as a shield, lies about union
> > endorsements, ulterior motives, lots and lots of messianic bullshit,
> > and of course, shirking responsibility.
>
> > Until I see some major changes, I'm not at all enthusiastic about
> > Occupy Denver.- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -
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From: chatnoir <wolfbat359a@mindspring.com>
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Subject: Re: The Ugly Truth About #OccupyDenver
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