🚀 go-pugleaf

On Dec 30, 4:19 pm, drylined <r...@d.mr> wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 12:39:10 -0700, chatnoir <wolfbat3...@mindspring.com>
> wrote:
>
> >http://occupydenver.org/this-saturday-war-on-drug-march-rally-against...
>
> > This Saturday War On Drug March&  Rally Against Suncor
>
> > This Saturday 12/31 at noon we will be marching against the war on
> > drugs, and joining up with the Rally Against Suncor, Tar Sands and
> > Keystone XL Pipeline @ Skyline Park at 1pm.
>
> You forgot Sears, Brussell Sprouts, and E-470...
>
> > About The War on Drugs:
>
> > Like most wars, we think this one has done more harm then good and has
> > gone on for way too long. It needs to END!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Of course you do, OD is a wholly owned subsidiary of Pot Inc. dba Bong
> Industries.
>
> Uh...huh...huh...huh...huh...huh...
>
> > Alcoholism… Drug Addiction… These are HEALTH issues, not legal ones.
>
> Say that the next time a drunk driver kills your loved ones or a junkie
> burglarizes your home.
>
> > So why has money been endlessly poured into convicting drug crimes
> > rather than educating people and paying for treatment of these
> > conditions??!!
>
> It hasn't, it's gone into both, ever hear of D.A.R.E.?
>
> > Because there is BIG PROFIT to be made on the
> > enforcement of drug laws and the punishment for breaking them. Not to
> > mention big business/ government relationships with foreign cartels!
>
> Oh pulleeeeze...this ain't Mexico you ludites.
>
> > The War on Drugs has filled our prisons with nonviolent “offenders”
> > and has cost this country Billions. It’s been used to trample civil
> > rights and profit from misery all around. Drug addiction is a disease
> > that needs to be treated by medical professionals or any of the many
> > 12-step programs out there. It’s a giant waste of time and money to
> > treat addiction in jails and prisons.
>
> Which is why they don't currently treat it there.
>
> > Drug addicts are treated unequally, under current law. Rush Limbaugh
> > got a pass for gobbling down Vicodin and Oxycontin like it was
> > popcorn.
>
> Clinton claimed he never 'inhaled"...ikyabwai...
>
> > Then, he bragged about how he was morally superior to other
> > addicts, espousing how “poor” addicts go to prison. For once, he spoke
> > the truth.
>
> Poor thieves go to prison too.
>
> > There is a massive disconnect in our country between the reality of
> > substance problems and they are treated. But we now see who benefits
> > from the way it has been for so long.
>
> So go unlock the dopamine equation, stoner. Until then we will continue to
> have addictions.
>
> > About Suncor:
>
> > It was reported in late November that oil has been discovered in the
> > South Platte River.
>
> To go with the raw sewage from the homeless living along it, junkie's
> needles, and various other bacteria that have always been in it.
>
> > Very little coverage from the media was published
> > at the time of the discovery,
>
> No, that's a complete lie. Reuters had it out by month's end.
>
> > but, until recently, it has been
> > confirmed that gas-like sludge has been found on the edges of the
> > river. It is unknown how long this leak has been present in the water.
> > This water is a major source for drinking water, wild-habitat and
> > agricultural uses for the Midwest, but the water is now contaminated
> > and is non-usable for everyone and everything.
>
> No it isn't. It's a localized, small problem.
>
> > **Suncor Energy is the oldest tar sands producers, up to 90% of its
> > production comprised of tar sands bitumen. The company uses its
> > Colorado refinery to process some of the heavy tar sands coming from
> > the Express and Platte pipelines.
>
> So then Keystone XL wouldn't be necessary to get the stuff here at all
> would it?
>
> I mean I hate for you libs to have to look at a map and learn something
> but here goes:
>
> http://www.transcanada.com/keystone_pipeline_map.html
>
> The closest XL gets to Denver is Steele City, Kansas!
>
> And with or without XL Suncor WILL be processing oil, of some type and
>  from some origin.
>
> I mean that is their business, right?
>
> Selling gasoline?
>
> > The refinery, itself, specializes in production of synthetic crude
> > from the Athabasca oil sands located in Alberta, Canada, and the
> > Keystone XL pipeline, if approved, will obtain its own oil from the
> > Athabasca oil sands in Alberta, as well, which is located on Cree
> > First Nation land.
>
> Yeah, so?
>
> Has it like got cooties or something?
>
> Let me guess, you prefer the OPEC sludge from the raghead IED lands?
>
> > TransCanada proposed the pipeline back in 2005, and
> > they are based in Calgary, Alberta, as well as Suncor Energy. So,
> > there is a connection from Suncor to the Keystone XL pipeline and,
> > now, AIM and environmental activist groups are raising awareness in
> > Denver!
>
> Oh no, let me guess....as Denver's _only_ refinery they're buying oil
> coming from Canada?!?!?
>
> Scandalous I say!
>
> We should put them onto that good Venezuelan shit.
>
> > Although the Keystone XL is up in Canada, that doesn’t
> > necessarily mean that, here in Denver, we aren’t affected by the
> > devastating effects of the oil sands, especially, with the oil leak
> > that occurred in Commerce City.
>
> That refinery was known for problems back when Conoco owned it. It's had
> fires, explosions, etc.
>
> I mean that's what happens when you process flammable stuff, shit happens
> now and then.
>
> At least it didn't pollute the air and blacken the skyline like when
> Conoco owned the joint.
>
> > This leak has polluted the Sand Creek
> > and the South Platte River with gas-like sludge for an unknown period
> > of time, and Suncor needs to be held accountable for polluting the
> > air, water and ecosystems that are being affected directly by the
> > leak.
>
> Well why don't you see if maybe they are going to or already have handled
> this before you go all chicken little on us, eh?
>
> http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/30/us-suncor-leak-colorado-idU...
>
> Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:07pm EST
>
> (Reuters) - Suncor Energy said on Wednesday it has contained a leak near
> its Commerce City refinery in Colorado that was running into Sand Creek by
> the South Platte River.
> The Canadian energy firm said it had not yet identified the source of the
> leak, and it did not identify the substance leaking, but said it believed
> it came from their 93,000 barrel-per-day plant.
> "Our team installed booms in the creek to contain the product. That was
> done yesterday," said Sneh Seetal, a Suncor spokeswoman in Calgary.
> "Our focus is on cleanup at this point. We do not see more product
> leaking."
>
> > This is just a prime example of what will inevitably happen if the
> > Keystone XL is approved.
>
> Yes, we will from time to time have refinery leaks or pipeline breaks,
> that shit does happen.
>
> Are you moving over to horse and buggy any time soon?
>

Oh please, the US is exporting fuel right now:

http://enews.earthlink.net/article/top?guid=20111230/d862979e-6557-4c...

headline:


In a first, gas and other fuels are top US export


For the first time, the top export of the United States, the world’s
biggest gas guzzler, is _ wait for it _ fuel. (From Associated Press)
December 30, 2011 3:49 PM EST


NEW YORK (AP) — For the first time, the top export of the United
States, the world's biggest gas guzzler, is — wait for it — fuel.


Measured in dollars, the nation is on pace this year to ship more
gasoline, diesel, and jet fuel than any other single export,
according
to U.S. Census data going back to 1990. It will also be the first
year
in more than 60 that America has been a net exporter of these fuels.


Just how big of a shift is this? A decade ago, fuel wasn't even among
the top 25 exports. And for the last five years America's top export
was aircraft.


The trend is significant because for decades the U.S. has relied on
huge imports of fuel from Europe in order to meet demand. It only
reinforced the image of America as an energy hog. And up until a few
years ago, whenever gasoline prices climbed, there were complaints in
Congress that U.S. refiners were not growing quickly enough to
satisfy
domestic demand; that controversy would appear to be over.


Still, the U.S. is nowhere close to energy independence. America is
still the world's largest importer of crude oil. From January to
October, the country imported 2.7 billion barrels of oil worth
roughly
$280 billion.


Fuel exports, worth an estimated $88 billion in 2011, have surged for
two reasons:


— Crude oil, the raw material from which gasoline and other refined
products are made, is a lot more expensive. Oil prices averaged $95 a
barrel in 2011, while gasoline averaged $3.52 a gallon — a record. A
decade ago oil averaged $26 a barrel, while gasoline averaged $1.44 a
gallon.


— The volume of fuel exports is rising. The U.S. is using less fuel
because of a weak economy and more efficient cars and trucks. That
allows refiners to sell more fuel to rapidly growing economies in
Latin America, for example. In 2011, U.S. refiners exported 117
million gallons per day of gasoline, diesel, jet fuel and other
petroleum products, up from 40 million gallons per day a decade
earlier.


There's at least one domestic downside to America's growing role as a
fuel exporter. Experts say the trend helps explain why U.S. motorists
are paying more for gasoline. The more fuel that's sent overseas, the
less of a supply cushion there is at home.


Gasoline supplies are being exported to the highest bidder, says Tom
Kloza, chief oil analyst at Oil Price Information Service. "It's a
world market," he says. .... (cont)