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On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 04:33:01 -0700, chatnoir <wolfbat359a@mindspring.com>  
wrote:

> On Dec 30, 8:58 pm, drylined <r...@d.mr> wrote:
>> On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 18:48:31 -0700, chatnoir  
>> <wolfbat3...@mindspring.com>
>> wrote:
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>> > On Dec 30, 4:19 pm, drylined <r...@d.mr> wrote:
>> >> On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 12:39:10 -0700, chatnoir
>> >> <wolfbat3...@mindspring.com>
>> >> wrote:
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>> >>  
>> >http://occupydenver.org/this-saturday-war-on-drug-march-rally-against...
>>
>> >> > This Saturday War On Drug March&  Rally Against Suncor
>>
>> >> > This Saturday 12/31 at noon we will be marching against the war on
>> >> > drugs, and joining up with the Rally Against Suncor, Tar Sands and
>> >> > Keystone XL Pipeline @ Skyline Park at 1pm.
>>
>> >> You forgot Sears, Brussell Sprouts, and E-470...
>>
>> >> > About The War on Drugs:
>>
>> >> > Like most wars, we think this one has done more harm then good and  
>> has
>> >> > gone on for way too long. It needs to END!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>> >> Of course you do, OD is a wholly owned subsidiary of Pot Inc. dba  
>> Bong
>> >> Industries.
>>
>> >> Uh...huh...huh...huh...huh...huh...
>>
>> >> > Alcoholism… Drug Addiction… These are HEALTH issues, not legal  
>> ones.
>>
>> >> Say that the next time a drunk driver kills your loved ones or a  
>> junkie
>> >> burglarizes your home.
>>
>> >> > So why has money been endlessly poured into convicting drug crimes
>> >> > rather than educating people and paying for treatment of these
>> >> > conditions??!!
>>
>> >> It hasn't, it's gone into both, ever hear of D.A.R.E.?
>>
>> >> > Because there is BIG PROFIT to be made on the
>> >> > enforcement of drug laws and the punishment for breaking them. Not  
>> to
>> >> > mention big business/ government relationships with foreign  
>> cartels!
>>
>> >> Oh pulleeeeze...this ain't Mexico you ludites.
>>
>> >> > The War on Drugs has filled our prisons with nonviolent “offenders”
>> >> > and has cost this country Billions. It’s been used to trample civil
>> >> > rights and profit from misery all around. Drug addiction is a  
>> disease
>> >> > that needs to be treated by medical professionals or any of the  
>> many
>> >> > 12-step programs out there. It’s a giant waste of time and money to
>> >> > treat addiction in jails and prisons.
>>
>> >> Which is why they don't currently treat it there.
>>
>> >> > Drug addicts are treated unequally, under current law. Rush  
>> Limbaugh
>> >> > got a pass for gobbling down Vicodin and Oxycontin like it was
>> >> > popcorn.
>>
>> >> Clinton claimed he never 'inhaled"...ikyabwai...
>>
>> >> > Then, he bragged about how he was morally superior to other
>> >> > addicts, espousing how “poor” addicts go to prison. For once, he  
>> spoke
>> >> > the truth.
>>
>> >> Poor thieves go to prison too.
>>
>> >> > There is a massive disconnect in our country between the reality of
>> >> > substance problems and they are treated. But we now see who  
>> benefits
>> >> > from the way it has been for so long.
>>
>> >> So go unlock the dopamine equation, stoner. Until then we will  
>> continue
>> >> to
>> >> have addictions.
>>
>> >> > About Suncor:
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>> >> > It was reported in late November that oil has been discovered in  
>> the
>> >> > South Platte River.
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>> >> To go with the raw sewage from the homeless living along it, junkie's
>> >> needles, and various other bacteria that have always been in it.
>>
>> >> > Very little coverage from the media was published
>> >> > at the time of the discovery,
>>
>> >> No, that's a complete lie. Reuters had it out by month's end.
>>
>> >> > but, until recently, it has been
>> >> > confirmed that gas-like sludge has been found on the edges of the
>> >> > river. It is unknown how long this leak has been present in the  
>> water.
>> >> > This water is a major source for drinking water, wild-habitat and
>> >> > agricultural uses for the Midwest, but the water is now  
>> contaminated
>> >> > and is non-usable for everyone and everything.
>>
>> >> No it isn't. It's a localized, small problem.
>>
>> >> > **Suncor Energy is the oldest tar sands producers, up to 90% of its
>> >> > production comprised of tar sands bitumen. The company uses its
>> >> > Colorado refinery to process some of the heavy tar sands coming  
>> from
>> >> > the Express and Platte pipelines.
>>
>> >> So then Keystone XL wouldn't be necessary to get the stuff here at  
>> all
>> >> would it?
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>> >> I mean I hate for you libs to have to look at a map and learn  
>> something
>> >> but here goes:
>>
>> >>http://www.transcanada.com/keystone_pipeline_map.html
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>> >> The closest XL gets to Denver is Steele City, Kansas!
>>
>> >> And with or without XL Suncor WILL be processing oil, of some type  
>> and
>> >>  from some origin.
>>
>> >> I mean that is their business, right?
>>
>> >> Selling gasoline?
>>
>> >> > The refinery, itself, specializes in production of synthetic crude
>> >> > from the Athabasca oil sands located in Alberta, Canada, and the
>> >> > Keystone XL pipeline, if approved, will obtain its own oil from the
>> >> > Athabasca oil sands in Alberta, as well, which is located on Cree
>> >> > First Nation land.
>>
>> >> Yeah, so?
>>
>> >> Has it like got cooties or something?
>>
>> >> Let me guess, you prefer the OPEC sludge from the raghead IED lands?
>>
>> >> > TransCanada proposed the pipeline back in 2005, and
>> >> > they are based in Calgary, Alberta, as well as Suncor Energy. So,
>> >> > there is a connection from Suncor to the Keystone XL pipeline and,
>> >> > now, AIM and environmental activist groups are raising awareness in
>> >> > Denver!
>>
>> >> Oh no, let me guess....as Denver's _only_ refinery they're buying oil
>> >> coming from Canada?!?!?
>>
>> >> Scandalous I say!
>>
>> >> We should put them onto that good Venezuelan shit.
>>
>> >> > Although the Keystone XL is up in Canada, that doesn’t
>> >> > necessarily mean that, here in Denver, we aren’t affected by the
>> >> > devastating effects of the oil sands, especially, with the oil leak
>> >> > that occurred in Commerce City.
>>
>> >> That refinery was known for problems back when Conoco owned it. It's  
>> had
>> >> fires, explosions, etc.
>>
>> >> I mean that's what happens when you process flammable stuff, shit
>> >> happens
>> >> now and then.
>>
>> >> At least it didn't pollute the air and blacken the skyline like when
>> >> Conoco owned the joint.
>>
>> >> > This leak has polluted the Sand Creek
>> >> > and the South Platte River with gas-like sludge for an unknown  
>> period
>> >> > of time, and Suncor needs to be held accountable for polluting the
>> >> > air, water and ecosystems that are being affected directly by the
>> >> > leak.
>>
>> >> Well why don't you see if maybe they are going to or already have
>> >> handled
>> >> this before you go all chicken little on us, eh?
>>
>> >>http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/30/us-suncor-leak-colorado-idU...
>>
>> >> Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:07pm EST
>>
>> >> (Reuters) - Suncor Energy said on Wednesday it has contained a leak  
>> near
>> >> its Commerce City refinery in Colorado that was running into Sand  
>> Creek
>> >> by
>> >> the South Platte River.
>> >> The Canadian energy firm said it had not yet identified the source of
>> >> the
>> >> leak, and it did not identify the substance leaking, but said it
>> >> believed
>> >> it came from their 93,000 barrel-per-day plant.
>> >> "Our team installed booms in the creek to contain the product. That  
>> was
>> >> done yesterday," said Sneh Seetal, a Suncor spokeswoman in Calgary.
>> >> "Our focus is on cleanup at this point. We do not see more product
>> >> leaking."
>>
>> >> > This is just a prime example of what will inevitably happen if the
>> >> > Keystone XL is approved.
>>
>> >> Yes, we will from time to time have refinery leaks or pipeline  
>> breaks,
>> >> that shit does happen.
>>
>> >> Are you moving over to horse and buggy any time soon?
>>
>> > Oh please, the US is exporting fuel right now:
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>> "Right now"?
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>> We've been exporting oil since we first began whaling.
>>
>> You're an hysterical propaganda ninny.
>>
>>
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>> >http://enews.earthlink.net/article/top?guid=20111230/d862979e-6557-4c...
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>> > headline:
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>> > In a first, gas and other fuels are top US export
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>> > Gasoline supplies are being exported to the highest bidder, says Tom
>> > Kloza, chief oil analyst at Oil Price Information Service. "It's a
>> > world market," he says. .... (cont)
>>
>> Now how many barrels do you wish to IMPORT from a region that is  
>> unstable
>> politically and under CARTEL pricing control?
>>
>> No, that's not Canada...or Mexico...or Brazil...
>>
>> Rent a brain, lib-bot.
>>
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> No our fuel is being exported to the highest bidder.  Thus saying
> higher prices for the US!

That is how profits are made, people bid on things and buy them and the  
highest bid wins.

Ever hear of Ebay?

You can even make some profits for yourself there.

Now what does exports of US oil have to do with exports of Canadian oil  
delivered to US refineries by the proposed XL pipeline?

Yes, that's right - we get:

1. Jobs to construct the pipeline, and communities along the route get  
increased spending and tax receipts.

2. US refining companies like Valero get more product to refine, generate  
more US jobs, and make more US profits.

But if Canada has to ship it out of their west coast they will need to  
refine it in Alberta first, or build a new facility in BC.

Why do you want to treat our friends so poorly?

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