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Re: Occupy Denver - This Saturday War On Drug March & Rally Against Suncor

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Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2012 20:34
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On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 17:42:49 -0700, chatnoir <wolfbat359a@mindspring.com>  
wrote:

> On Dec 31, 2:25 pm, drylined <r...@d.mr> wrote:
>> On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 13:21:28 -0700, chatnoir  
>> <wolfbat3...@mindspring.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > On Dec 31, 11:18 am, drylined <r...@d.mr> wrote:
>> >> On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 04:33:01 -0700, chatnoir
>> >> <wolfbat3...@mindspring.com>
>> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> > On Dec 30, 8:58 pm, drylined <r...@d.mr> wrote:
>> >> >> On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 18:48:31 -0700, chatnoir
>> >> >> <wolfbat3...@mindspring.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> > On Dec 30, 4:19 pm, drylined <r...@d.mr> wrote:
>> >> >> >> On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 12:39:10 -0700, chatnoir
>> >> >> >> <wolfbat3...@mindspring.com>
>> >> >> >> wrote:
>>
>> >>  
>> >http://occupydenver.org/this-saturday-war-on-drug-march-rally-against...
>>
>> >> >> >> > This Saturday War On Drug March&  Rally Against Suncor
>>
>> >> >> >> > This Saturday 12/31 at noon we will be marching against the  
>> war
>> >> on
>> >> >> >> > drugs, and joining up with the Rally Against Suncor, Tar  
>> Sands
>> >> and
>> >> >> >> > Keystone XL Pipeline @ Skyline Park at 1pm.
>>
>> >> >> >> You forgot Sears, Brussell Sprouts, and E-470...
>>
>> >> >> >> > About The War on Drugs:
>>
>> >> >> >> > Like most wars, we think this one has done more harm then  
>> good
>> >> and
>> >> >> has
>> >> >> >> > gone on for way too long. It needs to END!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>> >> >> >> Of course you do, OD is a wholly owned subsidiary of Pot Inc.  
>> dba
>> >> >> Bong
>> >> >> >> Industries.
>>
>> >> >> >> Uh...huh...huh...huh...huh...huh...
>>
>> >> >> >> > Alcoholism… Drug Addiction… These are HEALTH issues, not  
>> legal
>> >> >> ones.
>>
>> >> >> >> Say that the next time a drunk driver kills your loved ones or  
>> a
>> >> >> junkie
>> >> >> >> burglarizes your home.
>>
>> >> >> >> > So why has money been endlessly poured into convicting drug
>> >> crimes
>> >> >> >> > rather than educating people and paying for treatment of  
>> these
>> >> >> >> > conditions??!!
>>
>> >> >> >> It hasn't, it's gone into both, ever hear of D.A.R.E.?
>>
>> >> >> >> > Because there is BIG PROFIT to be made on the
>> >> >> >> > enforcement of drug laws and the punishment for breaking  
>> them.
>> >> Not
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> > mention big business/ government relationships with foreign
>> >> >> cartels!
>>
>> >> >> >> Oh pulleeeeze...this ain't Mexico you ludites.
>>
>> >> >> >> > The War on Drugs has filled our prisons with nonviolent
>> >> “offenders”
>> >> >> >> > and has cost this country Billions. It’s been used to trample
>> >> civil
>> >> >> >> > rights and profit from misery all around. Drug addiction is a
>> >> >> disease
>> >> >> >> > that needs to be treated by medical professionals or any of  
>> the
>> >> >> many
>> >> >> >> > 12-step programs out there. It’s a giant waste of time and
>> >> money to
>> >> >> >> > treat addiction in jails and prisons.
>>
>> >> >> >> Which is why they don't currently treat it there.
>>
>> >> >> >> > Drug addicts are treated unequally, under current law. Rush
>> >> >> Limbaugh
>> >> >> >> > got a pass for gobbling down Vicodin and Oxycontin like it  
>> was
>> >> >> >> > popcorn.
>>
>> >> >> >> Clinton claimed he never 'inhaled"...ikyabwai...
>>
>> >> >> >> > Then, he bragged about how he was morally superior to other
>> >> >> >> > addicts, espousing how “poor” addicts go to prison. For  
>> once, he
>> >> >> spoke
>> >> >> >> > the truth.
>>
>> >> >> >> Poor thieves go to prison too.
>>
>> >> >> >> > There is a massive disconnect in our country between the
>> >> reality of
>> >> >> >> > substance problems and they are treated. But we now see who
>> >> >> benefits
>> >> >> >> > from the way it has been for so long.
>>
>> >> >> >> So go unlock the dopamine equation, stoner. Until then we will
>> >> >> continue
>> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> have addictions.
>>
>> >> >> >> > About Suncor:
>>
>> >> >> >> > It was reported in late November that oil has been  
>> discovered in
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> > South Platte River.
>>
>> >> >> >> To go with the raw sewage from the homeless living along it,
>> >> junkie's
>> >> >> >> needles, and various other bacteria that have always been in  
>> it.
>>
>> >> >> >> > Very little coverage from the media was published
>> >> >> >> > at the time of the discovery,
>>
>> >> >> >> No, that's a complete lie. Reuters had it out by month's end.
>>
>> >> >> >> > but, until recently, it has been
>> >> >> >> > confirmed that gas-like sludge has been found on the edges of
>> >> the
>> >> >> >> > river. It is unknown how long this leak has been present in  
>> the
>> >> >> water.
>> >> >> >> > This water is a major source for drinking water, wild-habitat
>> >> and
>> >> >> >> > agricultural uses for the Midwest, but the water is now
>> >> >> contaminated
>> >> >> >> > and is non-usable for everyone and everything.
>>
>> >> >> >> No it isn't. It's a localized, small problem.
>>
>> >> >> >> > **Suncor Energy is the oldest tar sands producers, up to 90%  
>> of
>> >> its
>> >> >> >> > production comprised of tar sands bitumen. The company uses  
>> its
>> >> >> >> > Colorado refinery to process some of the heavy tar sands  
>> coming
>> >> >> from
>> >> >> >> > the Express and Platte pipelines.
>>
>> >> >> >> So then Keystone XL wouldn't be necessary to get the stuff  
>> here at
>> >> >> all
>> >> >> >> would it?
>>
>> >> >> >> I mean I hate for you libs to have to look at a map and learn
>> >> >> something
>> >> >> >> but here goes:
>>
>> >> >> >>http://www.transcanada.com/keystone_pipeline_map.html
>>
>> >> >> >> The closest XL gets to Denver is Steele City, Kansas!
>>
>> >> >> >> And with or without XL Suncor WILL be processing oil, of some  
>> type
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> >>  from some origin.
>>
>> >> >> >> I mean that is their business, right?
>>
>> >> >> >> Selling gasoline?
>>
>> >> >> >> > The refinery, itself, specializes in production of synthetic
>> >> crude
>> >> >> >> > from the Athabasca oil sands located in Alberta, Canada, and  
>> the
>> >> >> >> > Keystone XL pipeline, if approved, will obtain its own oil  
>> from
>> >> the
>> >> >> >> > Athabasca oil sands in Alberta, as well, which is located on
>> >> Cree
>> >> >> >> > First Nation land.
>>
>> >> >> >> Yeah, so?
>>
>> >> >> >> Has it like got cooties or something?
>>
>> >> >> >> Let me guess, you prefer the OPEC sludge from the raghead IED
>> >> lands?
>>
>> >> >> >> > TransCanada proposed the pipeline back in 2005, and
>> >> >> >> > they are based in Calgary, Alberta, as well as Suncor Energy.
>> >> So,
>> >> >> >> > there is a connection from Suncor to the Keystone XL pipeline
>> >> and,
>> >> >> >> > now, AIM and environmental activist groups are raising
>> >> awareness in
>> >> >> >> > Denver!
>>
>> >> >> >> Oh no, let me guess....as Denver's _only_ refinery they're  
>> buying
>> >> oil
>> >> >> >> coming from Canada?!?!?
>>
>> >> >> >> Scandalous I say!
>>
>> >> >> >> We should put them onto that good Venezuelan shit.
>>
>> >> >> >> > Although the Keystone XL is up in Canada, that doesn’t
>> >> >> >> > necessarily mean that, here in Denver, we aren’t affected by  
>> the
>> >> >> >> > devastating effects of the oil sands, especially, with the  
>> oil
>> >> leak
>> >> >> >> > that occurred in Commerce City.
>>
>> >> >> >> That refinery was known for problems back when Conoco owned it.
>> >> It's
>> >> >> had
>> >> >> >> fires, explosions, etc.
>>
>> >> >> >> I mean that's what happens when you process flammable stuff,  
>> shit
>> >> >> >> happens
>> >> >> >> now and then.
>>
>> >> >> >> At least it didn't pollute the air and blacken the skyline like
>> >> when
>> >> >> >> Conoco owned the joint.
>>
>> >> >> >> > This leak has polluted the Sand Creek
>> >> >> >> > and the South Platte River with gas-like sludge for an  
>> unknown
>> >> >> period
>> >> >> >> > of time, and Suncor needs to be held accountable for  
>> polluting
>> >> the
>> >> >> >> > air, water and ecosystems that are being affected directly by
>> >> the
>> >> >> >> > leak.
>>
>> >> >> >> Well why don't you see if maybe they are going to or already  
>> have
>> >> >> >> handled
>> >> >> >> this before you go all chicken little on us, eh?
>>
>> >>  
>> >>http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/30/us-suncor-leak-colorado-idU...
>>
>> >> >> >> Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:07pm EST
>>
>> >> >> >> (Reuters) - Suncor Energy said on Wednesday it has contained a
>> >> leak
>> >> >> near
>> >> >> >> its Commerce City refinery in Colorado that was running into  
>> Sand
>> >> >> Creek
>> >> >> >> by
>> >> >> >> the South Platte River.
>> >> >> >> The Canadian energy firm said it had not yet identified the
>> >> source of
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> leak, and it did not identify the substance leaking, but said  
>> it
>> >> >> >> believed
>> >> >> >> it came from their 93,000 barrel-per-day plant.
>> >> >> >> "Our team installed booms in the creek to contain the product.
>> >> That
>> >> >> was
>> >> >> >> done yesterday," said Sneh Seetal, a Suncor spokeswoman in
>> >> Calgary.
>> >> >> >> "Our focus is on cleanup at this point. We do not see more  
>> product
>> >> >> >> leaking."
>>
>> >> >> >> > This is just a prime example of what will inevitably happen  
>> if
>> >> the
>> >> >> >> > Keystone XL is approved.
>>
>> >> >> >> Yes, we will from time to time have refinery leaks or pipeline
>> >> >> breaks,
>> >> >> >> that shit does happen.
>>
>> >> >> >> Are you moving over to horse and buggy any time soon?
>>
>> >> >> > Oh please, the US is exporting fuel right now:
>>
>> >> >> "Right now"?
>>
>> >> >> We've been exporting oil since we first began whaling.
>>
>> >> >> You're an hysterical propaganda ninny.
>>
>> >>  
>> >http://enews.earthlink.net/article/top?guid=20111230/d862979e-6557-4c...
>>
>> >> >> > headline:
>>
>> >> >> > In a first, gas and other fuels are top US export
>> >> >> ---
>> >> >> > Gasoline supplies are being exported to the highest bidder, says
>> >> Tom
>> >> >> > Kloza, chief oil analyst at Oil Price Information Service.  
>> "It's a
>> >> >> > world market," he says. .... (cont)
>>
>> >> >> Now how many barrels do you wish to IMPORT from a region that is
>> >> >> unstable
>> >> >> politically and under CARTEL pricing control?
>>
>> >> >> No, that's not Canada...or Mexico...or Brazil...
>>
>> >> >> Rent a brain, lib-bot.
>>
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>>
>> >> >> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> >> > No our fuel is being exported to the highest bidder.  Thus saying
>> >> > higher prices for the US!
>>
>> >> That is how profits are made, people bid on things and buy them and  
>> the
>> >> highest bid wins.
>>
>> >> Ever hear of Ebay?
>>
>> >> You can even make some profits for yourself there.
>>
>> >> Now what does exports of US oil have to do with exports of Canadian  
>> oil
>> >> delivered to US refineries by the proposed XL pipeline?
>>
>> > No fuel for the USA!
>>
>> Incorrect.
>>
>> We are already using over 90% of what Canada exports.
>>
>> Furthermore your press release decries any use of tar sand oil.
>>
>> It is accepted that you are willing to toss all the jobs that the XL
>> pipeline would create. And that in a down economy. That's pitiful.
>>
>
> Nope, working to fix the infrastructure in the US would provide a lot
> of jobs!

Pipelines ARE "infrastructure in the US". Stop lying.

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Subject: Re: Occupy Denver - This Saturday War On Drug March & Rally Against
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