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Re: The assault on the teaching of evolution:

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From: Daniel Packman
Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2005 19:50
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In article <k8zBd.9837$iC4.2622@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com>,
Harold E. Robbins <herobbins@netscape.net> wrote:
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>There has to be matter and a force to create the big bang, in scientific 
>principle, neither existed.  That is what is meant by "excuse".  Without 
>a source, there is no matter, without a source there is no force.

Many philosphers talk about this need for an ultimate source.
There is no such pressing need within science.

> You 
>either believe in the supernatural begining of one or the other.  No 
>other system of logic has come forth that can explain the origin of being.

So limiting.

I am willing to use "supernatural" to describe this beginning.
I am willing to redefine natural to include this as well. I
am willing to suspend belief in either. I am willing to believe
wholly in one, and then the other. And also explore other possibilities.

-- 
Daniel Packman
NCAR/ACD
pack@ucar.edu
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Subject: Re: The assault on the teaching of evolution:
Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 19:50:21 +0000 (UTC)
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