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Article #31725Re: The assault on the teaching of evolution:
From: Sam Stone
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 15:55
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 15:55
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Daniel Packman wrote: > In article <U4Nzd.7529454$6p.1183837@news.easynews.com>, > Sam Stone <sirian@mental.org> wrote: > ...... > > >>http://www.actionbioscience.org/evolution/nhmag.html >> >>...has both sides of the issue, feel free to remain unwilling to see >>that ID is plausible, even provable... > > > Behe's arguments of irreducible complexity are based on assertion > of irreducibility. But Kenneth Miller does a fair job within this reference > of pointing out Behe's shortcomings. > Demski's specified complexity is also dealt with within the reference by > Robbert Pennock. Similarly, Wells goes off an ill-defined deep end > with his assertions of "design" but Eugenie Scott brings him soundly > back to earth. Finally, Barbara Forrest summarizes the political > content of intelligent design and its lack of scientific content. > > Thanks for the reference. And thanks for a predictable dismissal of ID... >>And for those readers who find this odious little weasel's flailing >>tired, the grist of the ID argument follows: >> >>http://www.reasons.org/resources/apologetics/index.shtml#design_in_the_universe > > > Calculating probabilties that life would be unlikely in > another universe begs several obvious questions such as > the fact we can't reliably calculate any of these numbers, > the uniqueness of this universe is guaranteed to the extent we exist, > the probabilities listed are not independent quantities, > and we don't know the resulting universe with alternative > possible "life" with different numbers. So, iow, we have ony our own lens of creation to use as a magnifier and thus our postulations, pro or con, necessarily are as limited as the visible spectrum of light our own eyes can recieve.
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