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Re: The assault on the teaching of evolution:

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From: Bama Brian
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 20:48
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Sam Stone wrote:
> Daniel Packman wrote:
> 
>> In article <p_rzd.7464150$6p.1175117@news.easynews.com>,
>> Sam Stone  <sirian@mental.org> wrote:
>> ......
>>
>>
>>>>> Keep your human "method" out of science[..]
>>
>>
>>  
>> I'm finding it difficult to follow your point.
>>  
>>
>>> WHO designed "scientific"  method?
>>
>>
>>
>> The human origins of the scientific method are not
>> at issue. 
> 
> 
> Oh?
> 
> Why not?
> 
> When a species determines its level of awareness, either morally, 
> scientifically, or otherwise it is always pertinent to examine the 
> process and see if it is inherently representative of the biases of its 
> authors.

The problem for the Creationists is that the scientific method simply 
works whether one believes in it or not, while a belief in the Bible or 
in God as the Creator is a circular argument, with no basis whatsoever 
in fact.

> 
>> The point is that this objective process
>> of inquiry has proved sufficiently useful to society
>> that it is part of the curriculum. 
> 
> 
> The point is that said "objectivity" is really the construct of a most 
> "subjective" species.
> 
>> This does not imply
>> that other pursuits, such as spiritual, have no value.
> 
> 
> That's nice.
> 
>> Only that they are not objective nor universal in
>> apploication and therefore not appropriate for a
>> generally agreed to curriculum.
> 
> 
> You mean a "subjectively  agreed to" curriculum...
> 
> That vaunted objectivity was not machine born, and those components 
> which now are still spring from human designed architecture.


-- 
Cheers,
Bama Brian
Libertarian
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