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Article #31746Re: The assault on the teaching of evolution:
From: Sam Stone
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 01:22
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 01:22
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Daniel Packman wrote: > In article <ggWzd.1613558$SM5.130785@news.easynews.com>, > Sam Stone <sirian@mental.org> wrote: > >>Daniel Packman wrote: > > ..... > >>>The human origins of the scientific method are not >>>at issue. > > >>Oh? > > >>Why not? > > > Because the system works and works objectively independent of its origins. Erm, not exactly. The system, as any designed by man, reflects the logical boundaries of its authors. >>When a species determines its level of awareness, either morally, >>scientifically, or otherwise it is always pertinent to examine the >>process and see if it is inherently representative of the biases of its >>authors. > > > Science itself doesn't have anything to do with determining awareness. So at what point were we aware of sub-atomic particles? Or do you simply blame the measuring tools of the day? > Bias may indeed come into play if you use science for this purpose. > > ...... > >>That vaunted objectivity was not machine born, and those components >>which now are still spring from human designed architecture. > > > You are free to try to come up with an alternative objective system. Yet it would still reflect my personal biases and perceptual abilities. Recall there was much scientific study and method before certain (then unmeasurable) particles and fields were discovered. Bit of a moving target really.
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