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Jeremy Harmon wrote:

> "King Samuel" <stars@bars.usa> wrote in message
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>>Jeremy Harmon wrote:
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>>>"King Samuel" <stars@bars.usa> wrote in message
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>>>>Donald L Ferrt wrote:
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>>>>>"I don't know how the hell these people got into our army," said Ben
>>>>>Nighthorse Campbell
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>>>>Nighthorse always says it straight - sickos like that are not something
>>>>his generation had to get used to.
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>>>Beyond the background check for criminal charges, and I don't recall
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> going
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>>>through any screening, personally, that would have weeded out sickos.
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>>Well maybe it's about time we tightened the requirements a bit then!
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> They may actually have already done so.  You should know that back when I
> went into DEP they were still asking if I was gay.
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>>>I have a difficult time, in fact, of thinking of any such possible
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> tests.
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>>I don't.
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>>A basic psychological exam would be a wonderful start.
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>>We do that for cops, why not those who serve in the armed forces?
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>>And an FBI background check wouldn't hurt either.
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>>This generation of "kids" will never carry the jock of the "greatest
>>generation", ever.
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> See I've taken those basic psychological tests in a lot of places.  Anyone
> with even a nominal understanding of how those things work can easily give
> the "correct" answers, though they may not always be the most honest ones.

I won't dispute that almost any exam can be gamed, hence the value of a 
good background check and character references.

> I will say this for their security though, I got a pretty high ASVAB score
> which gave me a lot of job options, approximately 3/4 of which were removed
> from the list due to my one black-mark, a deffered shoplifting conviction
> when I was 16.  There definitely are mechanisms in place, I just don't know
> how effective any of them could be at knowing how one may honestly handle
> the kind of high stress situations war time soldiers most certainly will
> encounter.
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> Jeremy

Fair assessment, but the real tragedy is that reserve units with even 
less training were thrust into this type of duty. Of all the potential 
cluster-fucks that could have occurred it seems this ought to have been 
the most obvious red flag area. Why they didn't have an eagle eye on the 
POW camps is the great riddle.

If I were prone to conspiratorial thought I'd almost guess someone 
wanted to shoot us in the foot...