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Article #86165Re: Concealed Carry Status In Colorado?
From: Scott Weiser
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 00:00
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 00:00
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On Mon, 11 Jan 99 03:19:56 GMT, Melissa9Z@Zmho.net (Melissa) wrote: >In article <369967cc.0@news.mho.net>, Melissa9Z@Zmho.net (Melissa) wrote: >>Well, now that we have a new Republican Governor and Republican controlled >>legislature ( which I dread on some other issues, but that's another thread ), >>will we be seeing a good clean simple concealed carry law pass this year? >> >>Is anything in the works already? >> >>Who can we fax or email our support to? > >Just did some digging and answered my own question. It can be found at: ><http://www.state.co.us/gov_dir/leg_dir/sess1999/sbills99/sb084.htm> > >Looks pretty decent to me. Discussion? Change "handgun" to "weapon" and amend language to allow other types of lawful weapons to be carried concealed. Remove "Legal resident of the State of Colorado" to allow visitors to obtain Colorado permits under the same criteria as residents. There is no reason why a visitor should be denied the right to obtain a permit valid in Colorado and thus the ability to carry defensive weapons in Colorado. Look to the Florida experience where soon after residents were allowed to carry, criminals began specifically targeting *tourists*, and in particular rental cars, for crimes, knowing the likelyhood of tourists being armed was less. 18-12-204 (1) Add language mandating that the *form* of the permit be uniform statewide, and that the *state* supply the actual permit form to the LEA, and that the permit form be designed so as to prevent alteration or forgery. This is necessary so that any permit can be visually verified by an LEO, and so that the numbering system for such permits will be uniform throughout the state and thus verifiable through computer check. State should have a complete list of all permits issued. I particularly like the change in 18-12-105 and 105.5 which replaces the "crime-with-an-affirmative defense" construction with a flat exemption for permit holders. This eliminates the ability of police to harass permit holders by arresting them and requiring them to go to court to show the "affirmative defense" of having a valid permit. However, I'd still like to see the whole bill amended back to "concealed weapons", not limited to "concealed handguns," which I feel is unduly restrictive. I urge those in support to write to Senator Chlouber and recommend these amendments and thank him for once again sponsoring this bill. I also urge you to send letters to *every* Representative and Senator urging them to amend and pass the bill. Our biggest difficulty will be, once again, getting the bill out of Judiciary Committee, which Dottie Wham runs, and which is packed with anti-gunners, where they will demand that local jurisdictions be permitted to create "gun free zones"....better called "criminal enterprise zones" such as parks, open space and other places, which places like Denver will use to emasculate and make the law useless by simply declaring everywhere as "gun free." This MUST be defeated...if necessary through amendment on the floor as happened in 96...which *really* pissed Wham off and is the reason it died in committee last year. If such language is inserted, then the bill MUST BE KILLED again, because it'll be much worse than what we have now. Regards, Scott Weiser ****** "I love the Internet, I no longer have to depend upon my friends, family and co-workers, I can annoy people WORLDWIDE!" ****** http://www.dimensional.com/~weiser/ Copyright 1998 by Scott Weiser By the act of transmitting any commercial e-mail or advertisment to this address, you are expressly contracting with me in my professional capacity for a consultation on the ad's effectiveness and you expressly agree to pay to me the sum of $250.00 for each such consultation within 10 days of my report to the original sending address. You further expressly agree that all actions for recovery of fees owed shall be subject solely to the laws of the State of Colorado, which shall have sole jurisdiction.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1044e7,39be5c2fa72549d3 X-Google-Attributes: gid1044e7,public X-Google-Thread: 1026d8,39be5c2fa72549d3 X-Google-Attributes: gid1026d8,public X-Google-Thread: 1073ca,39be5c2fa72549d3 X-Google-Attributes: gid1073ca,public From: weiser@dimensional.com (Scott Weiser) Subject: Re: Concealed Carry Status In Colorado? Date: 1999/01/11 Message-ID: <369a1c2e.286031199@news.dimensional.com> X-Deja-AN: 431279962 References: <369967cc.0@news.mho.net> <36996ec9.0@news.mho.net> X-Trace: wormhole.dimensional.com 916071188 206.124.5.167 (Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:13:08 MDT) Organization: Internet Advertising Consultants NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:13:08 MDT Newsgroups: co.general,co.politics,talk.politics.guns