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Re: Concealed Carry Status In Colorado?

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From: Scott Weiser
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 00:00
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On Mon, 11 Jan 99 03:19:56 GMT, Melissa9Z@Zmho.net (Melissa) wrote:

>In article <369967cc.0@news.mho.net>, Melissa9Z@Zmho.net (Melissa) wrote:
>>Well, now that we have a new Republican Governor and Republican controlled 
>>legislature ( which I dread on some other issues, but that's another thread ), 
>>will we be seeing a good clean simple concealed carry law pass this year?
>>
>>Is anything in the works already?
>>
>>Who can we fax or email our support to?
>
>Just did some digging and answered my own question. It can be found at:
><http://www.state.co.us/gov_dir/leg_dir/sess1999/sbills99/sb084.htm>
>
>Looks pretty decent to me. Discussion?

Change "handgun" to "weapon" and amend language to allow other types
of lawful weapons to be carried concealed.

Remove "Legal resident of the State of Colorado" to allow visitors to
obtain Colorado permits under the same criteria as residents.   There
is no reason why a visitor should be denied the right to obtain a
permit valid in Colorado and thus the ability to carry defensive
weapons in Colorado.   Look to the Florida experience where soon after
residents were allowed to carry, criminals began specifically
targeting *tourists*, and in particular rental cars, for crimes,
knowing the likelyhood of tourists being armed was less.

18-12-204 (1)  Add language mandating that the *form* of the permit be
uniform statewide, and that the *state* supply the actual permit form
to the LEA, and that the permit form be designed so as to prevent
alteration or forgery.   This is necessary so that any permit can be
visually verified by an LEO, and so that the numbering system for such
permits will be uniform throughout the state and thus verifiable
through computer check.   State should have a complete list of all
permits issued.

I particularly like the change in 18-12-105 and 105.5 which replaces
the "crime-with-an-affirmative defense" construction with a flat
exemption for permit holders.  This eliminates the ability of police
to harass permit holders by arresting them and requiring them to go to
court to show the "affirmative defense" of having a valid permit.

However, I'd still like to see the whole bill amended back to
"concealed weapons", not limited to "concealed handguns," which I feel
is unduly restrictive.  

I urge those in support to write to Senator Chlouber and recommend
these amendments and thank him for once again sponsoring this bill.

I also urge you to send letters to *every* Representative and Senator
urging them to amend and pass the bill.

Our biggest difficulty will be, once again, getting the bill out of
Judiciary Committee, which Dottie Wham runs, and which is packed with
anti-gunners, where they will demand that local jurisdictions be
permitted to create "gun free zones"....better called "criminal
enterprise zones" such as parks, open space and other places, which
places like Denver will use to emasculate and make the law useless by
simply declaring everywhere as "gun free."    This MUST be
defeated...if necessary through amendment on the floor as happened in
96...which *really* pissed Wham off and is the reason it died in
committee last year.   If such language is inserted, then the bill
MUST BE KILLED again, because it'll be much worse than what we have
now.   



Regards,

Scott Weiser

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Subject: Re: Concealed Carry Status In Colorado?
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