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Re: Today Show: Do concealed weapons reduce crime?

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From: Daniel C. Benton Jr.
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 00:00
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Dennis Clark wrote:
> 
> Daniel C. Benton Jr. (dcbenton@sni.net) wrote:
> > Dennis Clark wrote:
> [snip]
> > >   Punishing offenders is treating a symptom, concealed carry is
> > > treating a symptom, gun control laws are treating a symptom.  What is
> > > the cause?   Will we ever begin this search instead of piddling away
> > > with a bunch of feel-good laws/dogmas/sound-bites?
> > >
> > > Why is it so?
> >
> > Well, the 'cause' is that some folks are evil. They don't give a
> > damn about you, your family, your city, etc. and would kill you
> > for money, pleasure, etc. This has been true for all of history
> > of mankind.
> 
>   This is simply observation not reasoning or looking "behind the mask"
> either.  The "why" question still stands.  Your statement is the simple
> way out.

Do you expect some fancy 'reason' or secret purpose for the evil actions
of some people? I got news for ya, you can take any introductory philosphy
class at most any college or univerisity and you can spend countless hours
discussing 'free-will' vs 'determinism', 'God', etc. You won't get an answer
why there is evil in the universe, and why some people do what they do,
yet you expect these same answers from the fine folks using netnews. Do
the sayings 'Fat chance', 'Slim chance', and 'No chance' mean anything to
yoo?

You could also seek out help from a good pastor/priest. I doubt you
would gain anything from this, but you could try.

> 
> > The question is: Are you gonna hide from it, or fight it?
> 
>   There's more than one way to fight it.  To advocate killing to avoid
> being killed is a sound self-defense strategy for the otherwise helpless,
> but still, why?  And can it be reduced significantly?

Because that's the way the universe works. 

Maybe if we all had years to take good, solid training in martial arts
it would be different. Good training in pistol combat can be done in a
couple of weeks, and it is a great equalizer for women and small men.

Dan "Taking it to the streets"
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From: "Daniel C. Benton Jr." <dcbenton@sni.net>
Subject: Re: Today Show: Do concealed weapons reduce crime?
Date: 1998/07/22
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