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Article #86249Re: Oklahoma City Bombing Trials - Indictment.txt [0/1]
From: Riddle
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 00:00
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 00:00
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> One big issue with Art 1, S 8, C 17.....the trial was not over the > destruction of a building but instead that of the deaths of federal > employees. Your welcome. McVeigh and Nichols were charged with 3 crimes in addition to causing the deaths of federal employees. In the indictment (attached to this message) they were charged with 11 counts as follows: Count 1 - Conspiracy to Use a Weapon of Mass Destruction This crime consists of planning to use a weapon of mass destruction (in this case a bomb) and acting on such plan. Count 2 - Use of a Weapon of Mass Destruction This crime consists of using a weapon of mass destruction (in this case detonating a bomb). Count 3 - Destruction by Explosive This crime consists of causing damage to federal property with an explosive. Counts 4-11 - First Degree Murder This crime consists of causing the deaths of federal employees. The jury found McVeigh guilty on 11 counts, including conspiracy to use a weapon of mass destruction, use of a weapon of mass destruction, destruction by explosive, and eight counts of first-degree murder. The jury found Nichols guilty of conspiracy to use a weapon of mass destruction. He was found not guilty of destruction by explosive. He was also found guilty of eight counts of involuntary manslaughter in the deaths of eight federal employees. To understand how U.S. Contitution Article I, Section 8, Clause 17 is involved in this matter we must first look at U.S. Constitution Article III, Section 2, Clause 3. This clause establishes that trials are to be held in the state were the crime was committed. It further establishes that when a crime is not committed in a state, congress should direct were the trial is to be held. Article I, Section 8, Clause 17 defines what places are outside the jurisdiction of state government and empowers congress to regulate those areas. The crimes of Conspiracy to Use a Weapon of Mass Destruction and Use of a Weapon of Mass Destruction took place beyond the grounds of the Murrah Federal building (unless we are to believe unfounded "conspiracy theories") and therefore are outside of federal jurisdiction. Please see my message sent 6/14/98 for more detailed discussion of this matter. Riddle
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1026d8,543affd3486b7290 X-Google-Attributes: gid1026d8,public X-Google-Thread: 10bab8,543affd3486b7290 X-Google-Attributes: gid10bab8,public X-Google-Thread: 1121b7,543affd3486b7290 X-Google-Attributes: gid1121b7,public X-Google-Thread: 10fa57,543affd3486b7290 X-Google-Attributes: gid10fa57,public X-Google-Thread: 1073ca,543affd3486b7290 X-Google-Attributes: gid1073ca,public From: riddle@no.spam (Riddle) Subject: Re: Oklahoma City Bombing Trials - Indictment.txt [0/1] Date: 1998/06/15 Message-ID: <MPG.fef12246802db5398968c@news.infi.net> X-Deja-AN: 362859519 References: <MPG.fecd6241b846b11989681@news.infi.net> <358350DD.F1874F33@ix.netcom.com> <MPG.fed54cdf0c6a18d989689@news.infi.net> <35847751.6EE6@icok.net> Organization: Riddle Newsgroups: co.general,co.politics,ok.announce,ok.general,ok.tulsa.general