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Re: Mgt. at work dictating the car you drive

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From: NightSerf
Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 00:00
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In va.general SSlatin <steven.slatin@pressroom.com> wrote:


> Joshua Turner <shua@umich.edu> wrote in article
> <355B38C5.3AD1@umich.edu>...

> <much inane chest-beating deleted>

> > > > > It's Not What We THINK!!
> > > > > It's WHAT WE KNOW!!
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps you would take the trouble to cite the section of the
> > > > Constitution that guarantees the rights you have in mind...
> > > 
> > > What car you drive off-company/private property would possibly be
> > > protected by the 1st ammendment ( provided of course, your particular
> pool
> > > of choices all conform to the relevent laws/regulations. ).
> > 
> > It would only be protected if the government were the one telling you
> > you couldn't drive it. The Constitution doesn't apply to private
> > relationships/contracts. It only limits the power of the government. If
> > I wanted to pay Davis 100 bucks to shut the hell up, that would clearly
> > be constitutional; so is an employer agreeing to employ a person so long
> > as that person only buys Morgan Plus 8s. 
> > 
> > Even if it were the government, the chances of you successfully arguing
> > that the type of car you drove was in some way protected speech under
> > the 1st Amendment would be nil. A better argument would be a 5th
> > Amendment "takings" contention, but that would only get you compensation
> > for the loss of your property, not the property itself.

> Right on the first point, wrong on the second -- but for the same reason
> you
> are right on the first point.  You are entitled to protection under the
> constitution
> from 'takings" by the government.  The constitution does not generally
> address,
> as you state in your previous paragraph, contracts.
>  

I'm a little less certain.  No court has ruled on any issue
quite like this as far as I know--which isn't very far.  Maybe
some law buff can come up with some case law.  My guess,
though, is that the courts would rule that while a company has
no obligation to provide parking (free or otherwise), that if
such space is provided, the company cannot set unreasonable
limits on what kinds of vehicles vehicles employees can drive
to work.  I'm actually more than a little surprised that Coke &
Pepsi haven't been slapped down for their policies of firing
workers for using the competitors' products on *or off* the
job.  

-- 
Serf			tomb nor stone nor grave for me
(andy sims)		just a bier up in a tree
acs6j@virginia.edu	to let the cold wind take me in 
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From: NightSerf <acs6j@Virginia.EDU>
Subject: Re: Mgt. at work dictating the car you drive
Date: 1998/05/18
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